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Is modern intelligence tradecraft shifting the balance of regional power? Former specialist John Kiriakou provides an on-the-ground look at the defensive tactics and psychological maneuvers used in D.C. and beyond. From the strategic use of ballistic signaling to the "cell phone trap" that decodes leadership movements, Kiriakou breaks down the tech-driven chess match of 2026. This clip explores the thin line between transparency and tactical deterrence in a world of supersonic capabilities. Watch full episode here: https://youtu.be/s9qRSlRIqFM #JohnKiriakou #Geopolitics2026 #NationalSecurity #IntelligenceAnalysis #austinandmattpodcast #politics #iran #israel
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The Israelis have a very, very sophisticated program to take out military leadership and nuclear scientists. They've killed everybody. The rumor is that the reason why President Trump decided to bomb Iran is because Netanyahu told him, "If you don't, we're going to bomb them, but we're [music] going to use nukes." They took out literally the entire military leadership, the 12 top generals, every one of them's dead. And they did that by targeting their cell phones. Can you explain to me what happened in Iran when we bombed the nuclear facility? Did how were there first of all, how are there no casualties? I just can't imagine ICBM I have a theory. Yeah. Did we? Yeah. I think we warned them in advance. We must have, right? Yeah. Yeah. We're coming. You know, countries do that. Yeah. Going back a little bit, um, you know, the Israelis bombed, uh, Thran, right? The Israelis have a very very sophisticated program to take out military leadership and nuclear scientists. They've killed everybody. They took out literally the entire military leadership. The 12 top generals, every one of them's dead. And they did that by targeting their cell phones. what they did. There are two million um Afghan refugees in in Iran, but because they're refugees and they're not documented, they can't get any benefits, including food, medical care, housing. So, they're literally just living in the streets. So, the Israelis discreetly went in and said, "Listen, we'll give you $100 a month if you tell us what time the general leaves that apartment every morning. and which way he's going. And so you just recruit all of these homeless, destitute refugees, give them $100 or $50, at least they'll be able to eat for the month, and then you're collecting volumes of intelligence. And so they took out the entire military leadership. The Iranians realized what was happening and so they forbade all general officers from carrying cell phones, right? The Israelis went in with a second wave and killed the next wave of generals. How did they do that? It never occurred to the Iranians to tell the generals bodyguards that they can't carry cell phones. And so they just targeted the bodyguards cell phones. It was as easy as that. They kill nuclear scientists in Iran either by having assassins on the ground, which they do, or with drones, which they also use, and then they kill them when they go around the world to attend seminars or university classes or whatever. You either recruit them or kill them if they refuse the recruitment. So, they've they've beaten the Iranians that way. Then the Iranians, which was my original point, the Iranians, to save face, they just took it on the chin from the Israelis. They're going to have to retaliate, but they don't want the Israelis to use nukes against them. So, they tell us, listen, we're going to send like 700 drones. They're slow motion drones, and they don't have missiles on them. They're suicide drones. They just crash into the building. They have explosives, and they blow up. So tell the Israelis we're going to send these drones. So we tell the Israelis, the Iranians are going to attack you. They're going to send these drones. The Iranians launched their drones. They're subsonic. So it took them like six hours to cross Iraq and Jordan. The Israelis were ready for them. And then they shot all but I think it was like 11 11 made it through or seven made it through. Whatever it was, maybe it was seven made it through. That's valuable intelligence. So, the Iron Dome isn't so airtight as everybody thinks it is. But anyway, one guy got killed in Tel Aviv. Six people got injured. No big deal. But then the Israelis attacked again and the Iranians are like, "Okay, well now we have to retaliate again because they've attacked us and they can't look weak to their own people." So they start launching missiles. Now, the Iranians, like the Russians and the Chinese, have supersonic missiles. We don't. Ours are still in the testing phase. So, their missiles can break the sound barrier, and they're much much more difficult to handle. And several got through. So, then the Israelis bombed Gutter and killed the chief negotiator [snorts] for Hamas. Now, Gutter is a major non-NATO ally, right? We are compelled by treaty to defend Gutter. So, what do we do? We're going to bomb Israel. Can't do that. So, we give the Israelis a stern talking to and we make them apologize and we look like fools for allowing it to happen. Um, and then the Iranians uh start worrying that we're going to bomb their nuclear facilities. Now, here's where things changed in terms of American policy. Literally, every Israeli prime minister, going back to, you know, Reagan, when he would come to the United States, he would say, "You got to bomb Iran. You got to bomb Iran. You got to bomb Iran." And every single president said, "No, we're not going to bomb Iran for you until this president." Now, the rumor is that the reason why President Trump decided to bomb Iran is because Netanyahu told him, "If you don't, we're going to bomb them, but we're going to use nukes." And so, we bombed the Iranians with a bunker buster, the a Moab, you know, the mother of all bombs, um, just so the Israelis wouldn't use nuclear weapons. But the Iranians survived. You know, Iran is a gigantic country. It has 92 million people. And public opinion is not as deeply divided as the Israelis want people to believe. You know, the Israelis, you guys have seen this this clown Raza Palavi uh on TV, right? the crown prince of Iran, whose wife is carrying on a very public affair with her personal trainer, which is an utter humiliation in Islamic culture. Totally unacceptable. He's got a 14-year-old. They live here in PTOAC, Maryland. And um the guy hasn't been in Iran since he was like 16 or 17 years old. They stole everything they could steal and get it on these planes. And he's just lived fat and happy in Maryland ever since. And what? Now he's supposed to go back to Iran to crown himself king like his father did. Place the crown on his own head like Napoleon. So um if you are an Iranian millionaire in Beverly Hills, yeah, he's your guy. That's where his support comes from. That's where his support ends. Literally nobody in Iran wants that family, the Palavi family to uh to take over leadership. So who takes over leadership in the event of a of a coup or a or a revolution or an uprising or whatever? Who knows? The Israeli plan is that the US would install him and then for our trouble and all the money that it cost us to, you know, bomb these guys and bring carrier battle groups, we would get 49% of Iran's oil. They would keep 51%. And presumably everybody would live happily ever after. That's a fantasy. That's never going to happen. We tried that in 1953. We're still paying the price. It's just not going to happen. First of all, he wouldn't survive the walk from the plane to the terminal if he were even to go back. Secondly, his own people would murder him because he's he's a cuck. I mean, let's be honest here. This is a humiliation, not just for him, but for all Iranian men. Um, Iranians, I think, want democracy. I'm I'm going to disagree with many of my friends and say that I I don't believe that the Ayatollas are popular. I think that if Iranians could truly have their choice, they'd throw these guys out. But it it is not up to us. It's not up to the Israelis, nor should it be, to decide who gets to be the president of Iran.