How to Break into a CIA building | Joe McMoneagle

How to Break into a CIA building | Joe McMoneagle

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Former intelligence officer shares the unbelievable story of how he was assigned to run physical security for a massive NATO building packed with agencies—from the CIA to European intelligence services. What started as an assignment quickly turned into a test: breaking in, getting caught on purpose, and exposing vulnerabilities that could have made the building a prime target for Russian spies. In this clip, he reveals: • How NATO intelligence operations consolidated into one building • Why “red team” break-ins exposed shocking security flaws • The risks of espionage and infiltration during the Cold War • How an inside job tested every rule of security protocol Watch the full episode here → https://youtu.be/HUE6DcoQWUk #Espionage #ColdWar #Intelligence #PodcastClips #SpyStories #HistoryUncovered #Missions #Espionage #ColdWar #Podcast #Intelligence #SpyStories

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Espionage
Cold War
Intelligence
NATO
CIA
Security Breach
Red Team
Spy Stories
Podcast Clips
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[Music] huge 30,000 square feet. They had the equivalent of our CIA, the German CIA, the French CIA, Spanish CIA, every NATO CIA was all in there, our CIA, and then uh all kinds of other things, linguists and every every all these intelligence brought together from all over Europe into this one building, which makes a hell of a great target for Russian spies. >> Gosh, >> they just finished putting up putting it all together. Everybody's in this building. They're working there for like 4 months and this colonel comes up and said, "I heard a lot about you. Come into my office. I want to talk to you." Go in the office. He says, "I need somebody who's going to run physical security for this building." I said, "Well, I don't know anything about physical security." He says, "Doesn't matter. I know how good you are, what you do." Oh, by the way, here's another guy. And he introduced me to him and he says, "You guys will be partners in this." So, we go out, we get in the car with my new partner. And I says, "So, what is it we're supposed to be doing here?" He says, "Breaking in." >> Oh, >> but you know, they use lethal force here. >> So, don't mess up. >> And don't screw up. And I And uh Wait a minute. Hold it. screech. Hold it right there. I just locked the brakes on this vehicle. Oh, so that's the first thing we did. We broke in. They caught me, which was deliberate and he while he caught me and were dealing with me, he was going over a different part of the fence. >> So he's in the building. >> Did you know you were going to get caught? >> Yeah. You planned it with you in the pan. >> So So when they said freeze, >> Yeah. you know, what position would you like me in? You know, um, so but the MPs take me inside to a private room and now they want to know, you're American. Why did you break in? What are you after? Who you work for? Blah blah blah. And I'm not telling them anything. My job is to to not do anything until the clock on the wall says a certain time and then tell them who I am and why I'm there. >> You're the diversion. on the diversion because my partner is walking around inside >> with a badge. He took off somebody's jacket when he bumped into him. >> And he's planting these little cards that say boom on all over the building. >> Oh wow. >> Okay. >> Just to prove he had been there. >> Prove he's been there. >> Oh yeah. To >> prove I could I could have done it. Yeah. >> So I'm getting the phone book against side of the head. You know that kind of stuff. So the time changes. it gets to the right time. And I said, "Okay, everybody stop. Uh I am uh the new guy, one of the new guys in charge of phys physical security for this building. You just violated so many rules. I can't tell you how many. Get your boss in here now." So the senior colonel comes in to try the building and as soon as he sees me, cuz he knows me, >> he goes, "Oh god. cuz he knows I got to write him off. >> Oh, cuz you got in. >> Which is why I never saw a promotion. >> Oh, >> the colonel in charge of sec security for the building loves me. The guy that's responsible for the security hates my guts >> because that stuff's going on. And >> you shared the vulnerabilities. >> Yeah. So we did I did that for almost three years. It was like just so many things went wrong in that place because you're you're fighting people who don't like rules.