Orbs, UFOs & Spiritual Encounters: What MUFON Investigators Believe | Bob Spearing

to the seeing UFOs, pictures of orbs in cemetery. Orbs are real because I've seen them. Three, three, four weeks ago when New Paradigm, Danny Sheen, they had a big panel on the drones. I was part of it with Richard Dolan, Dan Sheen, uh, and Chris Bledo. And that was actually the first time I actually spoke to him. Very sincere guy, like sort of like a Woodsmany type guy. All right. But I I I was amazed that this guy had so many encounters through his life. It's it's it's astonishing. But I I really hadn't followed him till till that day. I just saw or I read his book. It came out a few months ago. It's called uh what Ali Ali uh was it UFO from God? UFO of God. And he's been seeing him his whole life. Basically, they follow him around actually where he travels. It's it's wild. And he seems to think that it's a spiritual phenomenon. Is that common among orbs where people that that seem to be delving into the spiritual they have more encounters or is that just I I'd have to say I'd have to say that that that there's this um legitimacy to that to that thought. Um a lot of people who um who submit reports to to move on are predisposed to to seeing UFOs. Uh a lot of experiencers uh believe that it's it's it's something you know ethereal. it's not necessarily something on our plane of existence. So, you know, I definitely think that there's there's credence to that. A lot of times though, when people take uh pictures of orbs in cemeteries, all right, at night, they're really not orbs. It's uh our photo analysis team will tell you that it's the camera lens focused to infinity and a dark night. It's really just a dust speck floating in front of the camera that's blown up and out of focus. So, it's not even, you know, real. But I I absolutely believe orbs are real because I've seen them. All right? So, you know, how can I deny that they they don't exist? A lot of people who report things to us, they they do have a spiritual slant and they don't necessarily think it's aliens. As a matter of fact, Muon will never tell you, "Yeah, it's aliens or it's time travelers or it's interdimensionals or it's demonic." All right? We we won't ever go out on that limb. We we just investigate and put the conclusions into the database. other researchers. Yes. So, we're we we don't call ourselves the mutual alien network, you know, because the UFO pretty much covers everything and anything. It seems like it's picking up a lot. And I say this from personal experiences. I'll share a couple later on. But is that is that right? Does it feel like all activity is just picking up recently kind of around the world? Yeah, I've been doing this a long time. So I'll tell you you got to be careful about that because when people see drones then everybody in the world sees drones okay and some of it's hysteria and the other part uh where you have to be careful and this is the practical side of things for many years muon was the only uh active database so you would get accurate monthly statistics was there more sightings in Washington state was there less in Pennsylvania and you can't do that anymore because there's so many new groups popping up like Arrow uh NASA takes reports, there's the pilot group that takes reports and now there's that private corporation called Enigma Labs that take reports. So none of these agencies including Mufon talk to each other. All right? So you can't really get accurate statistics anymore. Never will it get. That's too bifurcated to different