#04 Hidden Secrets of Giza: What the Media Won’t Tell You | Jahannah James Exposes Forbidden Temples

You have to go up just to get to the bottom of the pyramids. They found structures, empty cavities, things underneath the coffrey pyramid. I think that 9/11 didn't pale out quite how we think it did. What's up, guys? We got a really cool show today. We got to interview Janna James. She is into all things ancient megalithic structures, pyramids, uh, Easter Island, I mean, Barabar, you name it. She's been to all of them. She runs a YouTube channel, which we'll link to, and she's been doing it for nearly a decade. So, she knows all the big players. She's one of the big players in kind of the the scene that's that's unveiling all the things that are being discovered around this stuff. And most notably, recently at least, she helped to break the story around uh the new thing that's happening with the pyramids where apparently these scientists can take some like satellite radar and some a couple of different forms of beams that I don't know shoot at the dirt and bounce back or something and and basically there's they think they've discovered that there's these huge underground hu I mean just monstrous uh tunnels underneath the pyramid with these big structures. We'll go into all of that and you know the tech is not proven. This is not you know it's everyone's skeptical. Um but if it's true it will just change our entire understanding of humanity. And I think that's one of the things I I'm very drawn to our past, our history, these ancient megalithic structures because they are an enigma. Somehow these things exist all over the world and we don't know how they all got made. There's there's something there. There's smoke. You can say there's no fire, but there is smoke when you keep looking at all of these. And then you listen to people like Janna James who have kind of been to all of them, walked all around, started to see similarities, and you know, it just makes you question. And so there's no conclusions here. It's really hard to get any conclusions out of any of this, but it is interesting. And I like to have these little puzzle pieces around ancient civilizations and megalithic structures because it sort of informs who we are as a species. And I think to ignore it is to ignore some huge thing staring you in the face and kind of going what is that? How long has that been here? Why is that here? And it's okay. Let's look at the main narrative and let's look at all their evidence. And then let's look at maybe where there's a vested interest in not presenting something so truthfully which we even go into that a little bit too as well with with the Egyptian government. And it's fine. It's it's it's even I don't even blame them for it. It's just understanding how things move. So we really get into this because she she's a great storyteller. She was a comedian before this. Uh, so she just goes on some incredible stories about the different places she's been. And then actually also she's um, you know, we're starting this podcast and I try and take every opportunity I can to talk to content creators who are further into the future than I am. So I can talk about and listen to, you know, what they've done, what's worked, what's not, and kind of get into business models, too. So, if you like pyramids, aliens, ancient megalithic structures, or business models and content creation, and what it's like kind of doing it, um, this will be a really fun episode. I certainly enjoyed it. I'm glad I got to know her, and she was great. So, ladies and gentlemen, this is Janna James. Johanna, welcome to the show. Thanks for uh, being on the Austin and Matt podcast. Thank you very much for inviting me. Uh, how are you doing? Uh you you told us you're 5 months pregnant, right? So how's how's that going for you on the dayto-day right now? I've crossed the halfway. Um I've Yeah, I've never done this before. It's my f my first time. Um so you don't know you hear all the horror stories and you hear all the like or you see a lot. I never noticed just how much of like Instagram is just full of like mummy influences and like oh it it's been a bit tough cuz I've had I've had a bit of a I picked a the wrong stick or got a short stick with my pregnancy cuz I' i've been ill the whole time. Um which is kind of funny because I'm I've been I've been vomiting and feeling sick. Um, and and sometimes it just like it just comes out like um you know they say never trust a fart like that never trust a burp when you're pregnant because it just goes like it just comes out. So uh yeah, I've I've not enjoyed the sickness. Um and I found myself getting really annoyed at like all the mummy influences that are just like oh I'm just glowing and I just love it. I'm like, "How are you?" I just feel like death. Um but yeah. Um yeah, it's one of those things where I think like I think if you're if if it's going well for you, I think a lot of people like to think that they're the reason that it's going well. They're like cuz I'm getting sleep or I'm eating whatever. And they have all these, you know, uh reasons. And sometimes it's just you didn't do anything. And it's you didn't do anything for it to go well just as they didn't do anything for it to go not so well. It everybody every like human body is different. So your the hormones will re react differently. Um, yeah, because I've got I've got a few friends who are going through the same thing and and we're kind of like exchanging notes and there are some things that we've all got the same and some things that people like or the amount of people that have told me that they've never felt sick and that's really and I'm like, "Oh, I'm I'm like they're just like hovering in with a bucket and they're like, "Oh, I didn't feel sick at all in all of my pregnancies." And I'm like, "Great for you. Thank you so much." my I have three kids and my wife would get sick and okay, you know, some of her friends, they would say the same thing. They go, "Oh, I wish I could have if I could have 10 kids, I'd have 10 kids. It was so fun. It was great. I love having kids." And we're just like, she's just like surviving getting through one pregnancy at a time and trying to recover. And there's just some other women who are like, "I never felt anything and I wish I could have more, but you know, I have four and I wish I could have 10." And it's just I don't know. I don't know what causes it. You know, it feels like um for me it's like a tough mutter kind of one of those like Iron Man marathon things like you're going through one stage then the next stage then the next symptom and I'm just very aware that as I'm like past the halfway point I'm now like the end is not going to be fun. So um it's getting really real uh that the the birth is coming. Um and I'm like oh I just know I just know that I'm going to have like a story to tell there. My my mom has three children and she has like hilariously bad birth stories. Like she had um she had a flash birth with my brother which um it was like a spontaneous flash birth. So she gave birth in 4 minutes and um she yeah she was at home luckily she was with a friend. They were like having coffee and um she she thought she needed the toilet. She didn't. It was my brother. Um, and she just gave birth on the toilet um, in 4 minutes. And this and and then and then it just so so happened that my dad came home and and then also the babysitter and then the the the vicer popped by and then the neighbor and there was like 10 people in the house with mom um, and this tiny baby. And I was like, I just know I'm gonna have like a similar situation where it's gonna be in a car or a lift or somewhere public or or in a pyramid maybe. Or in a py. Exactly. Um Yeah. So, um yeah, that that's the only sad thing is I've had I've had to like I've had I thought I assumed that I was going to be like this super person woman and just be like working and traveling up until the last minute. Um, but I've I've really it's really knocked me and I've I haven't been able to travel. I haven't been able to work. I have it's been a very ju just get to the end of this. So, um, yeah, I I kind of contentwise it's gone right down and I've really I've really h I've been humbled to the floor about how I was like, "Okay, one thing at a time. I'm growing a human. It's going to take a little minute." Um, luckily I I I had this little uh window of where I felt more alive just when all of the Giza pyramid stuff started popping off because I hadn't I hadn't felt well enough to like even sort of put a camera on my face. But luckily that happened literally at the right time and I was um able to make a couple videos and cover. Yeah, you really blew that story up actually. I think you I I mean I found out about it through you actually. So thank you because that was cool to watch it go. Yeah. Yeah. I was uh someone on my Instagram just messaged like a a follower and said, "Hey, what do you think of this? Is this is this real?" And it was uh it was like someone had made a little YouTube video. There were two YouTube videos that existed. One from Project Unity and one from this lady that I can't remember her name. Um and and I was like, I don't know if it's real, but and I quickly was trying to find the source. I found the source of where it was coming from from this Facebook post and I just did a quick Tik Tok on its four updates. Um, and then it just 16 something million views. Um, and then the the the media weren't picking up on it. They originally did a press release to try and get the media and and it was one of those weird things where actually now the internet goes quicker than the media sometimes. Yeah. and everybody was on it on on YouTube and Twitter and and Tik Tok way quicker than any of the major media outlets. And then they kind of copied the internet. So, and I forget his name, but I saw that interview you did with the guy who did the Facebook post. That was so useful because it it like really laid the background of like, okay, this is where the story really is. Yeah. So Trevor, I I hadn't I hadn't heard of Trevor before, but he's like a YouTuber um who he he's his kind of lane is he loves underground Giza networks and tunnels and he he kind of scrambles around Giza a lot and I think he's got lots of self-made documentaries and YouTube videos on that and he is like not part of the team but he because he's interested in underground Giza he follows the team and has some communication with them and um they were the ones that said to him. They sent him the press release in the English version and said and he said, "Oh, can I can I pop this on Facebook?" And they were like, "Yeah." I don't think the team had any idea. No. Like so. They weren't prepared at all. They did not have a media package properly. They didn't um so they were just like, "Yeah, sure. Put it way where you want." Um and maybe for those who haven't heard about what's going on, uh would you give a quick overview of sort of this crazy because that's I mean this is unbelievable. And I I know we're like yeah let's give an like an overview of sort of what's just come out and how this happened and that you were so you got involved right at the core somehow. It's amazing right at the beginning. So um basically there's a team of uh three scientists um Italian scientists have been doing an independent project. they didn't get permissions because they didn't need to because um they were doing they were using two types of um satellite uh rad scanning technology. So S which is like oh I'm going to forget what it is now but it's like satellite aperture radar and something tomography is the other one. Um so they can literally use the satellites that are going around the world and they can um one of the um scientists um Filipo Beyond has he says he's developed like a a software like an algorithm where you can use these two types of he's he's a S scanning um like expert he's used it loads in not in archaeology but he's used it in other other fields and he's saying that if you use it together with this software that you can penetrate much deeper than you previously thought that you ood. Um, and so they decided to scan uh, first years ago they scan the Great Pyramid and then they started doing the Coffra pyramid which is the middle pyramid in Giza. And when they got the results back they they did about 200 tomography scans and then they have to I think it's it's not quite the case of like you know like in CSI where you just get a satellite scan and you can zoom in. I think there's quite a process of um, having to like render interpret the data basically. uh all the images together. They said it took a year and it took a lot of um the computers were going like 24/7 so it's um it's it's takes a while. Um but they're saying that they found um basically structures um empty cavities aka possibly chambers or there's space and there's things underneath the coff pyramid and they also believe that there are five other chambers. At the moment there's only um the one or two chambers in the coffrey pyramid that you can go around. Um but he he says that well they think that there are five and they think that they are identical shaped to the king's chamber. Okay. Makes sense if they're going to be shaped. So yeah. So S is synthetic aperture radar. That's one S and then was it LAR or different not LAR? No, it's um it's so it's not the one that they scanned the Amazon with. It's um it's something to something with a radar tomography. I just remember that. Oh, yeah, that's right. Um and so they this seems pretty unbelievable. I'm trying to I'm trying to understand I mean I guess it's really a question of how does the technology work, right? Because like I think I saw Yeah. when you were interviewing him uh one of the guys it's all from satellites. That's why you don't need permission from anybody because the satellite just flies overhead and it's almost like it's taking pictures, right? Special pictures of from all different angles and somehow through the radar or the beams going into the hitting the ground and rebound bouncing back or something. They can determine cavity spots like like like half a kilometer like hundreds of meters underwater underground. They can determine this. That's wild. which Yeah. And so then what they think that they've found, they've rendered these like 3D images of what they think that is under they think there's eight pillars. Um not that No, not pillars. They're hollow hollow hollow shafts. Yeah. Like reverse pillars. Yeah. Right. Hollow hollow. Cylindrical cylindrical shapes that go down um just over 600 m. And they and then they think that they can see like um spiral some sort of spiral coiled spirals around these hollow shafts. And these uh eight hollow shafts uh four four like aligned north, four aligned south. And um they each go into so four of four of each go into two separate hollow chambers that are below that are 80 m by 80 m. And then they they haven't um investigated any further, but they think that um under that there's two kilometers of sort of um tunnelways and passages, but they they haven't like looked in that. That's what that needs more research. But um so that's exciting. It's a big claim and and the 3D imagery like the artistic interpretation does look something out of like a sci-fi. And it the internet had just erupted because you've got it's caused war because you've got people going, "Oh my god, I knew it. It's a battery. It was an energy source because it if this is true, it blows the the whole the tomb theory. Like you do not you did not need two chambers 600 me. You don't need the hollow. Like you don't need f that that would make it seven chambers. It's one of the most alien things I've ever heard of. If Maria it's it's how big and how deep and how buried and how perfectly aligned. It's just it's like and why build it? Who built who built it without like what's the point? It's so it's so mysterious. It's incredible. Well, to to put a a point of clarification here because I had been telling this story like the reason this story is coming out now is because we didn't someone broke the permission barrier like like it's always been there probably, but Egypt has stopped a lot of people. I know there's been a lot of people that tried to research things in Egypt and they've been blocked. But this is actually a story of we have a new technology that can penetrate the ground further. I guess that's more of the story than it is one of of breaking permissions. Is it is that right? Well, um the what's interesting is so like two about two maybe two years ago they they did the the pyramid scanning project which is a completely separate team of scientists. I think they're involved with universities. They had full permission from the Egyptian authorities. They started scanning way back and I think it's like 2018 when I started visiting Egypt. I was there in the Great Pyramid with the equipment. The equipment was just being stored by the Japanese in the subterranean sort of scrambled over it. and they've been scanning the pyramid, the great pyramid for years. And then I think it was last year or year before they did a official press release that they found a whole new corridor uh entranceway corridor uh with a vaulted ceiling and they found a whole void in the pyramid that is the size of like a jumbo jet which is supposedly above the Grand Gallery. And so this is like official. They've just officially announced um no no uh no controversy. no controversy because it's it's coming from um sources. Yeah. And but I have a feeling with all of that scanning and all of that information that that's probably maybe not even 10% of what they found because they're going to hold on to stuff because they rely on tourism. Yeah. They're going to have to stagger their announcements and there's going to be there's going to be way more. And so if there is this huge other void or a huge chamber or something inside the pyramid and then there's a whole other corridor that nobody knew was there for thousands of years. Um it it just it proves the the point completely that you can that we don't know all the ins and outs of all these pyramids and that whole new sections. So I don't think it's that insane that someone's saying that they've found evidence of other things. Um, but it's still like it's still pretty remarkable. And if you do make a claim like that and you don't have the backing of Egypt, they're going to come for you and they're going to you have to make sure that you you peer review that and that you really hold your data has to be watertight. Well, and it makes sense um that Egypt as a country would just delay news coming out because I think it's something like 75% of their economy. I mean, it's a large percent of their economy. Oh, it's like 90. Yeah, it's dependent upon tourism. And so if they just if they have saying all the secrets all at once creates one big boom of tourism for the summertime and now 5 years later maybe it dies. You know, it's been declining. And so they have a vested interest, a literal financial interest in the whole nation to slowly trickle out information to keep people coming back over and over and over. And so you hate to see that uh because it makes sense. I don't, you know, I don't even blame him for it. like they're relying on this for their economy. And so I'm not thinking that it's a they're evil people. They're just trying to, you know, feed their people and stay alive. For example, when I went in 2020, that's 5 years ago, I went to, you know, the Capium, which is the underground where there's all those huge granite boxes. Um, and there's about 10 of them, I think, or in under the therapeutium. I spoke to the therapeutium manager, the guy there, and he told me like off the record um that they've discovered a further tunnel. Um, but they but they can't with with um this more boxes. I think another like another 10 boxes and they are completely unopened because um the thing about the Sarapim is they're all opened apart from one and then in the 1850s they dynamite exploded it open expecting to find like a pharaoh and there was nothing inside. Um so they they're going to have a chance again but the thing is is that they need he said that the the tunnel that they found it's behind thousands of years of debris and rubbish and they have a big trash problem in Egypt. It piles up everywhere. So the excavation of that is going to be expensive. it's going to be long. So, no one can access it. They're just aware that it's there. And that was 5 years ago. Um, and that information hasn't come out, hasn't gone anywhere. So, this is it can take it can take a long time, but but they know that what what Egypt knows and what Egypt shows is two very different things. How many times have you been to Egypt? Uh, three times. Okay. Uh, and is it um I kind of well so I've I've seen this kind of is a transition to where I've saw that you did uh bear the documentary and it seems I I really love how how do you do how what gave you the idea to do this? Like you were doing you're an actor. Uh, you've been in comedy before and you kind of got in, have you always been into ancient civilizations and megalithic structures and then one day you were like, I'm going to go visit this and put it on social and it just kind of pulled you in that direction cuz now you you've been you've been everywhere. You've been like all most a ton of the megalithics I can't I'm jealous like you get to go on all these trips and go to these amazing places. It's it's fascinating. Yeah, I I was always interested in history. I like I liked history just in general. Um I love like medieval history in England and oh yeah history was like a subject for me but um but it really hit before yeah before the the pandemic in 2020 I had been working for since like 2016 I was doing sketch comedy online so I a bit like when Vine died. I didn't do Vine, but I was inspired by Vine because I saw all these comedians making these funny videos and um there was American girls doing it, but in England there was no girls making comedy videos in like 2016. Um and so everybody from Vine, when Vine collapsed, everybody went over to Facebook because Facebook just added videos onto their platform. So I decided to make a Facebook page and start making like sketch comedy videos and they did really well. And um and then more and more girls um started joining the frey and then it be it became a community of like lots of comedy um comedians and we all used to like jump in each other's sketches and things a bit like the Americans do and so I so I did that up until the pandemic. I did for 4 years and then everything kind of stopped and I had the time to just stop because we all did and the only thing that I could really focus on um was ancient I fell completely down the YouTube rabbit hole. I I watched Joe Rogan when he had Graeme Hancock and Randle Carlson um and I found Jimmy Cosered's video about Atlantis. Yeah. And I was just like I was just like I'm in. Um, so I I started researching it and then because I'm did sketch comedy and I did acting and a bit of screenwriting, I had this idea for this like younger dus like Titanic but for the younger Dryus uh Comet Impact and I was like this would be so cool. What if we had So I I I started just like bashing out like a rough idea for a script. And then I realized I was like with my research I was like I have to go to Egypt to research this because it's gonna I have to be on the ground. Um and it was in 2020 and there was kind of nobody was really traveling but I looked into it and it wasn't a travel ban. It was like a travel you probably shouldn't but you could. The airplanes were still going. So I booked um a tour from Uncharted X. They're Ben. Oh yeah. He's a big YouTuber. And it just so happened that Bright Insight, Jimmy Cetti, was going to be on that tour um as well. Um and also on that tour, I met a guy called George Howard from the Younger D Comet. You know, George, he was our first episode. Yeah. Yeah. We live in the same town, so George and I are really good friends. Yeah. So, yeah. So, I met George, I met um I met Ben, I met Jimmy, and um so I went out there with the intention just to research my own script idea. That was kind of why it was it was chance. You went on the same tour as those guys. Yeah. I I fully like for your own project. Yeah. Yeah. And um and then I just thought while I was there I did get my research but then I also my mind was just I got a thousand more questions and I I vlogged it um because I thought you know why not. And then when I got home, I realized I had about nine videos worth of vlog footage. And I I just thought, "Oh, I've got an old YouTube channel that nobody watches cuz for some reason I never really like broke into YouTube. It was more Facebook and Insta." Um, so I had this channel with like a few subscribers and I was like, "Well, what if I just put history stuff on here and then I can try and find like a little community." So, I just started putting my vids out and then that started rolling and then that started getting more views in the comedy stuff and then I it got to the point where I was kind of straddling two lanes and then I went pick one and I was like here's the history. So, yeah. Um, rebranded over. Was there a moment then kind of it was growing, right? So, you know, I think a lot of this maybe, you know, I'd love to hear as far as content creation sometimes it's just what is interesting. I think this and it's a it's it's a wide variety of what could be interesting to you as a person to what you think is interesting. And so was like what you you made nine vlogs or nine nine posts or something? Yeah, it was about nine videos. And did they just kind of those nine just were were exciting because they just started getting views and taking off or Yeah. And and Ben Ben helped um and Jimmy helped. Uh Jimmy like we did I think we did um we did a like a kind of Zoom recording to talk about the Osiris shaft because we went down it all together. Um and uh it just it was just like a weird happenstance of it and and it it was also five years ago it was really more and more I was getting involved but it was really when more and more people more eyes were turning on it and now it's quite almost mainstream like lots of people but but five years ago it was I kind of I just caught that that wade and again it was like the second time where no girls were doing it. Mhm. Um, so there was um, but now and now lots of girls are. So it's yeah, it was just it was just kind of like I was just following a passion project and I know that's like awful cuz some people like they really like try and I'm just like whoops. Um but um yeah, I just I was just interested in it for my own thing and like I think my ultimate goal in the future would be like my two passions and my two worlds of like acting and creating and storytelling and ancient history if I could get them to marry and do a project um like Indiana Jones or something and that would be the goal. Um, and and yeah, it and and also I'm I'm also really bad for like picking up hobbies and be like ADHD and picking up things and being like, I'm going to do make jewelry and then I just I just drop it. I'm like obsessed for ages. But history is the one thing where like 5 years ago and I'm still like it's I don't think it's just an ADHD quick obsession. It's like I'm still passionate about it. I still there's so many places I want to go. Yeah. of all the places that you've been, are there any that just like gave you weird feelings? I know it's it's weird, but like sometimes when I start new projects, I'll be traveling and and I'll get a moment where like, whoa, I have this crazy feeling because I'm in this place. And I imagine with ancient sites, you even get that more. Is there is there any sites that have just like made you think, "Yeah, I'm on the path I have to be on." Uh, yes. So, um I I feel like I approach things in very in the middle lane. Like I'm not too I'm not like completely academic because I don't have the academic background. Um but I'm also I'm and I'm not like I'm not super spiritual and woo woo. I'm like super open to it, but but like I wouldn't be someone that say I'm particularly sensitive to energies. However, traveling to these ancient sites has you can't not like when you go up to when you go to different ones and and you just feel different things. Um that is bizarre. So the the Giza plateau when you go up there it's um for people who don't know that the pyramids are literally on 125 foot high plateau. You have to go up just to get to the bottom of the pyramids. It's ridiculous. If you're going to build a pyramid, you don't start at the like they have to at the top to just build the bottom of it. You have to carry everything uphill just to start literally. And if they've done it if they'd done it 500 m that way, they wouldn't have had to put it on the plateau, but it had to be up there for whatever reasons they wanted. But when you go up there, it's like the energy of the plateau is buzzy and and and it's not some I've been up there when there's absolutely nobody up there. There's not a soul on there. So it's not like buzz. It's not buzz because when we went in 2020, there was no other tourists. We were the only tour bus in Egypt. Oh, because of CO. Oh, I was going to say, what's the trick to going and being there when nobody's there? So the other So I've been there twice postco and it is a different experience because there's hundreds of people and you do have to get up for 5:00 a.m. and just you have to be at the front door. Yeah. Uh, if you're going to be at the least amount of cues, um, Egypt is like a it's a it's a marathon run. You're getting up, it's like every day you're like, "Next bus, next bus, 5:00 a.m., 5:00 a.m. It's it like it's a lot. Pyramid and temple pyramid runs are like athletes." They told us at the beginning, my first pyramid I went into, they were like, "Athletes have struggled, so don't feel bad if you struggle." And I was like, "Mate, you you're crawling down things. you got like um a 90 m descent and then you've got a 40 m ascent and then you're like on your hands and knees and yeah you're sweating and yeah like physically I was like I should have trained for this. Um it's yeah I it's it's shocking how how much um how like active it is and it's yeah it's desert. It's really really physically a lot. Um but yeah the feeling of the Giza Plateau it was buzzy. Uh the feeling when you when it's in the pharaoh's tombs, sorry, down in um different part of Egypt, the the um the tomb of the pharaohs. That's not what it's called. The valley of the kings. There we are. There it is. Yeah. Um and they uh that was I didn't like that. I've only actually gone down to the tomb once because went down to like I think it was Ramsay's the sixth tomb and I just didn't like it in there. It was it it felt like a tomb. It did. It feel like you're crawling around in some dead guys. Like it's like being in a cemetery kind of. Very much a cemetery vibe. And you don't get that when you're crawling inside a pyramid at all. Um. And when you say buzzy, what do you mean by buzzy? Like like almost like electro like you feel like electric static like when you a balloon against your Yeah. You feel like um Okay. Yeah. So you feel like on the it just feels like you're breathing uh preworkout powder for the gym. you know, you're funny. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's a great description. And and and you just feel like Yeah. And and what was interesting, the first time that I walked around the gizate, uh some of the guys on the tour, we had this really amazing guy uh from California who managed to bring um LSD into the country. Don't know how he very barely did that. Um and so a couple of the guys in the the tour decided to take LSD on the way to the Giza Plateau. So I got to interview somebody who was on LSD walking around the Giza plateau. And I remember not trying to prompt him but just trying to just get like genuine questions cuz he was looking up at the pyramid like whoa. And I was like what is it? Like what do what do you see? Um and he was like oh I can just see like he's like it's like I can see like energy waves. It's moving. And I was like what do you mean? Explain it to me. What can you see with your eyes? And he was saying like from the pyramid um the limestone blocks in the pyramid, he could see kind of like waves just going straight up into the air and down. And then I was like, "Okay, so is it just the limestone blocks or is it the um there's a huge um granite um floor casing stones that go all the way around the base." I was like, "What about around the base? What around here?" And he was like, "No, nothing off there. It's just the limestone blocks." And um I was like, "Interesting, interesting." And then about two minutes later, our tour guide, Yousef um Awan, who is um one of the like specialists, he's an Egyptian stonemason and knows like so much about um all the pyramids and he lives literally opposite the Sphinx. Um he happened to then say about the different properties of the pyramids um from like a pio electric point of view and saying how the the limestone is conductive and the granite um wasn't and it kind of just made sense for what this guy saw in his like LSDI um that he that that that there was like conductive energy waves were coming off like the limestone blocks and nothing was coming off the granite um floor stones. So that was kind of like energy bars. Um and then the other you just reminded me about you said what does it feel like where I physically felt something was when we went to Carac. So all the way down the river um in uh upper Egypt. It's they do it the wrong way around. So lower Egypt is at the top and upper Egypt is at the south of the river. Okay. because it actually I think that the the land does go so technically as you go down the river you're going up but it's very confusing when you look on a map so it's upside down so upper Egypt down at the bottom um because right the Nile goes the other way so they they up the Nile and that's south which is very rare yeah so it's very like well and I'm I'm like dispract with my left and right so it's like what um but yeah so we went to Carak Temple and I didn't see this the first time. So, this is why going to Egypt multiple times is amazing because every single time I've gone, I've seen some of the same things but from a different way. Um, or I've seen new things. It's Yeah, you can go multiple times and have different experiences. But the second time we went to Karnak Temple and in Karnak Temple there is a chamber that is off limits to um the public. You have to pay a bakshish. You have to pay like a special permission. You pay thousands of dollars as a group. You can afford it if you're going in a big group. And then you can get like special they'll unlock a door or a chamber or whatever. And they they took us into this um pay for play. Cool. Basically. Yeah. Um and tourism 101 in Egypt, man. Yeah. Basically, always have your back your back she ready. Yes. Tourism almost everywhere. Yeah. Correct. In the uh so in in Kak there is a uh there is a a semet statue and Seekmet is a goddess. She's kind of like a lioness. She's got like a lion for her head. Um, and she's supposedly the goddess of both war and healing. So, like she can mess you up and kiss you better, kind of nice, that kind of thing. Um, and she was like a really revered goddess. And apparently one of her statues, there's loads of sematite statues around, they found hundreds of them um, in the ground, but there's one that's still in situ in the original temple that it was like designed to be. And um it's in a it's in a chamber which is completely pitch black apart from a little square in the ceiling where they've chipped out the roof. And so apparently she activates at sun at sunrise. So when sun the sunbeam first comes through and it just like smacks her activates. She's made of like um a diorite stone which is like heavy over 50% quartz crystal. So, um, anyway, we went in to see them, but I was so busy because I was trying to remember in my mind where that saw mark from the last time because I was trying to show people on the tour like all the little bits of like ancient tech saw marks. So, I wasn't really focused on the statue. I was like, "Yeah, yeah, we'll go see the statue." But, um, but where was that? Was it left or was it right? And then we had to go in. We had to go in quickly and we had to go in in just small groups because it's like very sacred. So, I went in with like two other people. And the minute that I walked in, so there's a chamber. You go in the main door. There's an anti-chamber. Fine. You go into her chamber and it was like somebody behind me just put a cattle prod down the back of my neck and my whole body was buzzing like like you get goosebumps and pins and needles, but just everywhere. It was insane. It was the most like visceral reaction. I've never had it since and I've never had it anywhere else in Egypt. And then I went um the statue is about six foot five. It's she's quite tall and you're supposed to go up and approach her and like look her in the eyes and stuff. It's terrifying. And and I was just like my whole body was buzzing and it felt really weird. And then um then we left and then because everyone had gone in on like individual groups and then afterwards everybody was like conferring about what they'd experienced because some people felt the same thing. Some people felt nothing at all. other people's um saw things. Um they like they could like um you felt like you could see her move or they or like colors were coming off the everybody sort of has slightly unique experience. Yeah. But but but kind of within the realm of seeing something feeling something. Yeah. Like there was an electromagnetic effect happening. And Egypt is on like lay lines as well, right? Or some of these sites. So there would actually be weird electromagnetic things. And if you have crystals, you probably do have like some strange things going on. Well, exactly that. So, um, at Carak, the trees, some of the trees in around this particular temple site, there's a reason why the ancients picked this one for thousands of years. The trees don't grow up. They grow along the ground. Something very weird is going on. Like the trees, they they're beautiful, but they come up and then they sort of bend along. Wow. Um, and Wow. Yes. the um somebody so also what happened was technology was messing up in in the room of SEC met so in all the other temple rooms um we had a photographer with us professional photographer um he lives in Dubai and he's like one of the uh the top like portrait photographers in Dubai and he's got all his professional equipment he has this camera that he said he's had since since he was like 18 like he knows this camera inside out is his favorite camera and he went in and he was trying to snap pictures of Segment and then he came out and I watched this guy have like an existential crisis because the photos that he took of Segment the there was no data from them like in the the camera couldn't it was there was no data um there's no metadata there's no like all the stuff around all the information it's capturing about the photo all that was missing but not yeah so they could it could capture around but not the statue itself the data the metadata was missing and He he was like, "Is my camera broken?" But he was taking portraits of everybody else on the tour in low light in the in the sort of anti-chambers elsewhere on in Carac and really amazing. I've got them like high definition portraits with in the exact same light in the exact same condition. But his photos of Seek were coming out like double exposed. There was like two or three layered over. Um light was going weird. The the crystals it was the metadata was missing. He was like he couldn't believe it. He sent his pictures off to his team in Dubai to say, uh, has there been an error? Is this, um, is is this a double, um, like a double? Yeah. Um, and then they went through and they said, no, that like the camera's fine. Um, it's not double exposure. Uh, and yeah, it was it was it was really really interesting because then we were all talking about, yeah, okay, what about lay lines? What about energies? Um, another guy, he was a hand surgeon and he well, it's not really relevant. in the other hand session, but he uh he had an iPhone and he was trying to take pictures when he went in on his iPhone and he was snapping away and he was trying to use the flash and he you know when you take uh iPhone pictures like not even a second apart. It's like one, you know, you can get like loads of photos. So he um he tried to take one with the flash and it um it whited out the entire camera which apparently on it's really hard to do that on an iPhone. like you literally have to be putting your iPhone camera like right in the lens of some sort of bulb for it to the entire screen was just whited out and all the other ones were fine um when he didn't use the flash but the flash and then I pointed out I'm really happy that I spotted this um when he showed me the pictures and I went look where the geo tag is on that one picture. So all the other geo tags geotagged correctly to Karnak temple um Egypt and then that one picture where the data whited out the screen and it like there was an error the geo tag jumped to um please say Mars. No no no no it it geodumped to London, England. No um it was it geo tagged to somewhere else along the Nile. Um but but wasn't Carak Temple. It was a different geo tag and it was so weird for one minute the the iPhone just went and just put it over there and then in my head I was like whoa it is this statue somehow like going on placed on some sort of lay line. She's she's being charged with by the this little ray of sunlight with some sort of electro energy and and she's she's active. It's kind of It sort of reminds me of like if you were to if there were to be like nuclear fallout and somebody blows a big nuclear bomb somewhere and it destroys everybody and then a hundred years goes by and everybody forgets about what nuclear power is and they walk in like man something weird's happening right over in that city. Every time we go over there people get sick or people it's like it's it's like it's a remnant ripplings of something that happened so long ago and we can't that's what it just feels like. It's like somebody what was the atom bomb of what they were doing there that we're just like getting the buzz the buzz of the end of it all but like what was actually happening? Well the the oh no there's a reason why him being a surgeon was interesting cuz he's a doctor so he went away from the experience as well being like no no I've got to I've got to explain this scientifically. A very logical man. Yeah. And and and he was like no no this makes sense. So then he um people went back and um then the next time uh to and took um the uh electromagnetic like measurer device and yes she is emitting electromagnetic waves and and which and which and when when I was discussing this with the with the surgeon he went that makes so much sense about why your body um well why you felt vibrations because you're 90% water and your brain when you walk through that like force field Mhm. Mhm. If it's strong enough, you're going to physically feel it and pick it up. And which is why it was strong enough in that sunrise morning when you walked into the chamber that so so there's like there is science behind it. It's not totally magic, but but I mean magic is just I think science that we don't really know yet, right? But in my mind, you don't have the right tools yet. Yeah. I I suddenly understood, you know, when you read about the ancients worship statues and in the Bible they worshiped idols and people would like and like I I I don't know why people would worship a statue like we're like cool it's art you know but I understood that if you in the olden days if these statues were actually placed on lay lines if they were charged with crystals and and you were having this like uh reaction where you either it would play with your vision or it would play with your your kind of all your senses. is I understood why people would worship. Um there there would have had to have been a visceral response to it, right? I mean I I and and may or maybe we just don't understand the mentality of somebody back in the day that they could look at an object and and sort of imagine or I don't know whatever. But to your point, if if it actually what if they were more sensitive, right? They don't have cell phones and electricity and all that stuff. And so all of a sudden you encounter an electromagnetic field and you don't you've never lived in an electromagnetic field that you know we don't have cell phones. Maybe you're really sensitive to it and that would be a thing and they would just recognize yeah every time we go up and are really still around this statue. Yeah. Crazy stuff happens so we should you know venerate it. It's it's it's more logical than mystical in some ways. You mentioned those trees that were growing sideways. Were they all pointing the same way? Uh yeah, they kind of were coming up. I think they were all sprouting together and they they sort of went up and they were they were going along. They were kind of like live logs because they were still growing. Wow. Um and it happens at certain sites like around the temples around the sites where the ancients are going here. It makes sense if trees can see electromagnetic waves, which we know they can see them somehow because they point towards the sun and they follow it. if there was a big source of it, they're just growing straight towards the brightest light they see, but we maybe it doesn't fall in the visual spectrum. That's incredible. And uh the there is a there's there's a lot of like local law around this segment statue. Um so when they dug her up, I think it was in the 1800s, I'm guessing. thing. I think it was Yeah, like last two centuries. Apparently the workers, she really freaked out the workers who were um uncovering her and the statues and um and there was loads of things about she would move at night and people would Yeah. So they they they see her with a bit of juju and like there's a reason why she's off off limits. And um and I think there was a little there was a case of two children. they they fell down a well or something and people were like, "Whoa, it's the segment." It was Yeah. So, so she's kind of got this cool lore around her. But it it's um it's interesting because um yeah, because she has this duality of that of she's the goddess of both like war and and healing. So um what our we had this really amazing female um Egyptologist and she loves sack met and she said that she's like she was like every every time I see her I get greeted in a different way and she she kept saying she was like she's like she's spicy today she's in a mood today or like she's like oh today she's um yeah it's it's really interesting and um and then the second time I so obviously I went in and I was like buzzing head to toe I was like this is amazing and then I went back the next here and now I was really excited to see it because I understood what I was it took me completely by surprise first time I was so excited to feel this like buzzy buzzy buzzy feeling again. So queued up, waited, waited to go inside. And I walked in, I didn't feel anything. And I was like, "Oh man, oh no." Like maybe because I'm so aware I've like ruined it for myself or something. And then um I went up um and I just this time I walked it was like I walked through a wave of emotion and I and I burst into tears. Wow. And I just felt like overwhelmed when you're and I was just crying. And what did you feel? What did you feel in that moment? Just um complete just yeah like when you're that when you get that click of when you when you burst into tears like that kind of pressure release. It was it was like an I went through like an emotional wave. So I didn't feel anything buzzy but this time it hit like some sort of emotional thing. Was it love or sadness or or happiness or excitement or like what what sort of what would you say you were feeling when it use one of the five simple emotions cuz we're men and we don't know how they anyway. Yeah, it was good. No. Was it good or bad? Cuz I'd seen it on the previous tour. There was uh another girl that walked in and burst into tears. And again, I didn't feel so I was like, "Okay, she's having her thing with the statue. That's cool." Um but I didn't really understand that or feel that. But this one, no, it wasn't sad. It was just it was just like I just felt overwhelmed. Um and um yeah, I think you know like maybe you get like a a surprise party and your reaction is just because because you're you've overwhelmed your Yeah. So, I just kind of cried from overwhelm and then and then I went up to and like and then looked um kind of eye level a bit higher and then you're supposed to just sort of like look and you know be present and and I remember like being in my head being like show me show me show me show me something like come on I want to like come on come on and um and then and this is where I'm like I was so pissed off when it happened because I was like man looking at this in the statue's eyes and then in my vision in. She went and it moved and then and my initial and I went and then and then like and then I was really annoyed cuz I was like no this isn't scientific. I can explain I can explain the one with my brain and just lost all credibility and I was like everyone's gonna think I'm such an idiot now when I have to report on this and I was like but that's what I saw like I I swear I saw the face move and um and then I remembered back to like the geo tag moving for a second and I just I just wonder if there is any if we're like if I'm edging into the realm of if she's on this sort of lay line maybe and she's is kind of crossing intersectionally. It's just things that we don't even you know so we don't and so that's why we perceive her maybe as moving slightly because whenever if you're like if she's slightly in this constant cross zone that's the science that I'm trying to stick to because I was like I saw a freaking statue wink at me like I'm mental. Um and uh because when I because the year before there was a young guy who went in there. He was about 18 and he was taken on the tour by his dad and he was slightly there because his dad brought him and he wasn't really that into this stuff and and he's and he but then he by the end of it he was like loving it and he went into segment and he also had like an existential crisis cuz he came out and said that it smiled at him and that the lips went up and he he he wasn't like religious or spiritual but he was literally like freaking out that this statue had cut. He was like he was like the face moved man the face moved. Um so so yeah so weird stuff happens around and we know we know there's thing there is something with lay lines as funky as they seem like we interviewed uh Joe McMongle and he is at the Monroe Institute and one of his best friends is one of the best dousers in like all of the world and so this guy and he's he has a website and he mostly is like a consultant for uh mining companies who need to find wells and so he has these dousing rods And the guy has found like 4,000 wells in his career. And you know, and it's more it's cheaper, right? So it's verifiable because for profit companies instead of drilling core holes and trying to figure out what something is, they just hire a douser who walks around with these rods and it's just like, "Oh, there it is." And they dig and they find a well. And so and and they follow lay lines. So there there is some electromagnetic and and they talk about how water has different electrical properties which affects the rods and so you know at first glance it does seem like uh this is hocus pocus but then the more you kind of get into it it's kind of like oh there is something here maybe we just don't understand it it's not magic it's something we just only have part of the picture for sure and this the same thing happens though um talking about like well the energy wise on the other side of the world in the middle of the Pacific Ocean on Easter Island on Rapanui. That was the last place that I got to see and we I would love to go to Easter Island by the way. That seems like one of the spots to go to. It's amazing. Every every other ancient site I've been to has been um like like I said, physically exhausting and like you are it's it's dusty. It's the food always makes me ill. It's like it's like a brill um Easter Island is completely different. It's it's like this little pocket of the Polynesian I've never been to Hawaii, but it's kind of this Polynesian culture. Beautiful island. Um and it's really interesting because yes the other in the other places like in Turkey and Egypt you it really is these ancient sites are really in amongst like the third world and you either have rich princes or slums and it and the disparity is like there's no middle there's no middle class. Yeah. Yeah. Whereas everyone in Rapanui I didn't see one there wasn't like one rich house. Everybody just has like standard car, standard house, iPhone. Like it's it's this weird little place where they are both completely immersed in their ancient culture, but at the same time, everyone's got iPhones and like um they they've got this weird It made me think I was like, "Wow, I wish that we'd kept more of our ancient culture and ingrained it every day into our societies because it's only really if you are interested in history would you ever really know about it." But everywhere like everyone's covered in the tattoos. Everybody's um uh which I got actually on the launch today. We got Oh, nice. All right. What is that symbolism? So, this is uh this is uh the Maui um head. And this is the like um traditional like tribal patterns which apparently they all they're not just like they mean stuff. So, the guy did it freehand. So, um, and he I told told him cuz I have a I have another moon on this side. And I was like, we have like a and, um, he just he drew it in like 10 minutes and just by by complete freehand. They're some of the best tattoo artists, man. They know they know their ts. So, everyone's kind of like tatted. They're really into the cult like the the the music and the culture and the history and the lore and and and it's kind of it's really is woven. It's beautiful. Um, and yeah, you don't have that disparity of like everyone's, it's just everyone's just kind of in the mid. And um, there's one town on the island where everyone lives, just the one, and then everywhere else on the island is untouched. It's just as it was, and you just travel around and you can go around the whole island in like an hour. Um, and so you go and see all the sites. And when we went to the where the Maui sites were, um, again, all of our electric stuff, all of our batteries were draining faster than lightning. Uh, my friend who had a his like fully charged digital camera within 10 minutes of being up and around the Maui, it was just dead. And all of our electricity was just kicking out. In fact, they've even started a um they they they've started um a science project there. I'm I can't remember who it is, some some institution or university to to start really studying because of the electromagnetic energy around the island. Um they're saying that it's a there's there's no fly zones for helicopters because it's not safe because things just go w um wow and they're really starting to study it and and the whole of the law of the Moai is that they're covered in this thing called mana or that that they emit mana or they're surrounded by mana and and which is really interesting because that they call it mana but mana is also the thing the energy source in the Bible over in the Middle East and I was like that's that's weird that that they both call it mana but Um, so the statues by law are supposed to have this like energy coming from them and I was like maybe that was the ancient sort of term for what? Electromagnetic electricity. Yeah, they could tap it and use it. I could see mana. That's an interesting interpretation of it's providing mana. What I mean that's what's the different? It's my my my outlet is providing electricity and so I just I know like oh that makes things juiced up, you know? It's really interesting like Yeah. And so that was another one where that was another one of the most buzziest. So the Giza plateau and the uh going up to the 15 Moai that are like they're also on a little plateau and the energy around that you're just running up and down going again. It was that like you've taken some some some uh substance and you're just like whoa. Um yeah, it's amazing. really really really really cool um the island but really cold and yeah I bet it's windy. Yeah. So I I went in August and I completely forgot it's the other side of the world so it's upside down so it's their winter. So um so it's not I was expecting like tropical Yeah. No, go in January if you want it to be hot there. Um, in August it was freezing and I was like and it rained every day and it rains in England. So I literally felt like I'd gone from England. I traveled 20 hours on an airplane and felt like I was still in England. It was so rainy and cold. Um, but yeah, Easter Island is that once in a lifetime. Definitely do it. Um, so the those statues that look like heads, they're actually full bodies. Are they when you're in person, do they just look way bigger than what it looks like on Wikipedia? Yeah. Although the uh they come in so many different sizes. There's no one standard size. So there's there's ones that are like 2 foot tall and there are ones that are 80 foot. So Okay. Um the Yeah, there's there's there's a whole everyone's different. And also it's not quite the same as in Egypt. There's there's definitely like a carbon copy of faces that are like identical. Each moa is different. Each moa has a slightly different Okay. Um so it's not the it's not a carbon copy. Um but yeah, but but what the heads the heads are big like when you're walking around there's um there's a like a moai mountain where you get to walk literally in and amongst them and they are huge and but their heads and then you just know that the bodies are going right down. Um yeah, there what did the locals say about who built them or and why? So yeah, so I went to check out the Easter Island because the visual links between Easter Island and Gbecue and I've been to go back. So I was like now I can get my eyes on Yeah. both rocks and because the the hand placement are so like identical long fingers and it's um and and that yeah so I was really interested to see that. And also what you don't see because you see the heads, but all the backs are intricately carved. So the the fronts aren't, but the backs have um intricate carvings and some of them do symbolically look like an artistic interpretation of the stuff that you see on Geekbec, all the animals and the birds and things. Um so yeah so but you can't see a lot of that because um they are so eroded the erosion rate in correctly in in the Easter Island even since like the the last hundred years it's eroding faster and faster and faster. Something in the rain it's breaking it down quickly. Yeah. And they're all exposed to the elements. Exciting. And um and so it's going to go it's going to unfortunately I think in the next like 500 years you we could hardly see anything on the backs of the mois that have been exposed but the ones that are under the ground are all preserved but they're never going to be taken up because the the because they've had so much pillaging on the island and so they've had so many of them stolen and smashed and things by the arriving Europeans that they've decided now as a collective they've given the people of Rapanui like full choice over what they're going to do and they've all decided to leave them be and they don't want them excavated. They don't want them. So just like leave and if they find any new ones, leave them in situ. Um so I get that from a preservation and like culture point of view. But it is really annoying cuz I'm like we could just see a few of them because I know just just dig one of them up. Leave the rest. Just one, you know, there's 900 of them. But yeah, there's hundreds. Let's just get one up, you know. So So yeah. So there is um so I looked in there going, you know, were the were the were the statues there before the raperie? Um so there's no real evidence of any human activity on the island before about 800 um AD. Oh, okay. Um so they're quite recent. Um so the the the Rapanui people arrived and any excavations that they've done and they've like kind of dug down the earliest activ human activity is um is around 800 AD and the the the activity that's around Moai Mountain it does align to um between like a th00and to 1,300 AD. So basically medieval times these things were um these things were being carved. Um so I was a bit like okay so there's no historical evidence that really takes them right back apart from um Graeme Hancock spoke to someone on the last thing of ancient apocalypse and they said that they found they found planted like agricultured banana seeds that do go back um I think like 2,000 years. So that so somebody could have been on the island before, but I think it's it's quite difficult to um for there to be no human activity found. It's interesting. Do you give a lot of what do you think about the whole younger dus and sort of making the flood around like a lot of this stuff seems to have been disrupted by large bodies of dirt or water or some like it they aren't they aren't what they used. They it seems like they're not set up how they were originally set up and a lot. Do you do do you lend any credibility to the younger dus after seeing all of these in terms of like did that come and kind of is all this stuff here before that and it kind of gets washed up and and everything gets covered and I don't know what you you've been to so many of the sites. Well, the the the thing about Easter Island is it's so tiny tiny and if you go back if you go back to younger Dry's time everything would have been 400 m lower which makes the island considerably bigger. Yeah. Um so there is there's a chance that that there is a chance that below you know 400 below everything below all the silt that there are other structures and things of a whole layer of of community of time that we that we don't know yet. Um and and it's a chance that yeah that these moi and also these moi have been moved they're moved a lot and moved they moved them everywhere. Um, so they're they're still in situ on Moai Mountain is basically what I nickname the um the the quarry and some of them are still like they haven't been fully taken out of the rock. You can see how where they're getting it from. You can see it in the creation there. Some of them are stuck in the creation process or were stopped right at the creation in the middle of the creation process. So you can see how they carved them out and they're made of four different types of volcanic rock. So some of them there's there's there's there's one or there's a few bassalt ones which is very hard stone to do and then the majority of them are this like very porous volcanic rock that's just is why it's eroding so quickly but it is quite easy to chisel. So there's no real mystery in like how did they do it because um you you could easily chisel them. Um so where so I I was I I went being like okay so there's no real evidence for that. There's a there's one place on the island called Vineipu, which is the only megalithic platform that is it's like a carbon copy of um the South American Cusco um megalithic stone. There's nothing else like that on the island. And it literally looks like whoever built Kusco, those builders that knew how to do the big megalithic blocks with the perfect alignment. Every other stone structure on Rapanui is like um early primitive Neolithic. They stack stones. They don't they don't shape the stones and fit them. And cuz I thought I was like so where they live, they live in basically like like an upturned boat made of wood and you stack stones to make a base and then every week they'd be refreshing the wood for where for where they lived and you'd live in a kind of long boat that's upside down. And I was like, but if you if you could do a Vinnipoo, like I want to live in a vine. Like I'm not changing my wood every week. Like this is warm. This is um so it's really weird. Vineipu. Um yeah. And then and but again when they excavated down and around it, the earliest dates that were coming out were was around that thou th000 AD. Um so it it wasn't coming out as super older than that. Um yeah, but then when I came back, I was doing some research and they found out that they did some DNA testing recently from I think it was like 16 uh ancient Rapanoui skeletons that were in a museum in France and they gave Rapanui gave permission to do DNA testing on these ancient Rapanui people that was stolen and they found out that 10 they were 90% Polynesian and 10% South American. So that means that that they were definitely crossing from South America right the way to Rapanoui having babies and going back and forth. So there was this shared not well it's proven it's in the DNA there's this there's there was sea crossings um and it comes at around the time of a th00and to 12,000 AD. So it makes sense um that that's where the knowledge came from. It's probably a boat came over from South America and they were like, "We can build you a wall if you give us your wives." And um so that's cool. And then another thing I found really cool like the kind of the creme de cuz I was like really how how is it possible that they built these statues that look identical to the ones that they're digging up 10,000 12,000 years ago in the in the Middle East. Um so the Rapanui island and the Rapanui people they are a they are a start again rescue civilization because their entire history and like oral history it out and they have a written history they got the rapoo language wronga but nobody can translate it. So y they've got all these wronga that I'm hoping AI or someone in like seems like it should be able to it'll all be in there. they'll be all the answers will be like we got the statue from um but Costco so they have this whole precursor civilization so they were living somewhere else and then they had to escape wherever they were from because their island was sinking or something again it does tie into that kind of like disaster catastrophic del thing and they traveled across Polynia and they were finding and what was interesting was they and they were adamant about this like the people saying is that they went to Rapanoui because they already knew where it was and I was like that's interesting. So they arrived in the 8800 but somebody knew where it was. Um they already had like older tales of it sort of. Yes. Um either through um the story changes a little bit in the or so it's either through um somebody astral projecting and seeing where it was and being able to like locate it or they had knowledge of prior knowledge prior knowledge of where but that was interesting. They didn't. It wasn't like they came across this island and but it was given to them by the gods. It was it was like no no they they the king sent out eight scouts or seven scouts. It was a destination. Yeah. And they were like we're going to go there and you're going to go and see if we can live there and whatever. And so they tore that they already knew where it was. And then when the scouts came back and were like yeah it's pretty cool. Let's let's relocate there. So then all the tribes came over and they brought with them their Maui statues. So the Maui statues in their tradition do not originate on Easter Island. They are second generation uh remakes of an original statue that comes from somewhere else in a more anti later antiquity culture. So that's interesting. So so the the design of the Moai is a lot older than the island itself. So that can predate the dates that we're getting of human activity on the island because the design they brought moi with them and and and the reason why it's important to the story is because they they bought one and when they were getting it off the boat they smashed it and they were like you idiot the sacred statue of the ancestors and they were like so they had to try and recreate them and then there was this whole thing of these these stonemasons having to try and recreate the moai but they only had pieces of it. Um, and they were, you know, having to sort of like recreate this statue that they'd broken. Um, and and I think there's a funny bit of the story. They were saying they were working out where to put the hands and one of the older stonemasons said, um, look down and you'll understand. And then the guy s he went for like a pea break in the woods and then was like, oh, the position. And so so um that's how they got the ancient home position. Um so that's like a funny story, but so basically yes. So in a sense it's like it's it's it's the story doesn't quite stop at Easter Island and it's not the end of the line because because the idea that they came from somewhere else that we don't know where that is and that they already had um a tradition of stone statues and Moai and they were bringing it and this is this is just Moai 2.0. It's so many loose threads and it's not like imaginary loose threads. There's just real loose threads everywhere and it's kind of like, you know, you can ignore them, but they're there. It's they're not made up. It's just so funny. It I don't know. You see it everywhere all over the world. Um I have a question. Shifting gears a little bit. I wanted to ask you about um how you approach content and just almost as a business because it seems like because I was seeing sort of like the way everything has scaled for you over the last few years and you've have incredible content and then it seems like maybe this Egyptian thing I I think you've had moments of you know something spikes and kind of goes viral or you get you get bigger hits and this this pyramid one for whatever reason right it's it started pop popping. How how do you consider like when you were starting this? How what were you thinking was how are you defining success? How are you defining like oh this is this is worth it and versus taking more acting jobs or going and doing movies or you know it seems like you have a lot of options and so you know h how how have you approached this? So yeah content creation um so I yeah I I was taught by again some of the original Viners that I reached out to and was like I want to do this. How do I do this? How do you do wanted to be you wanted to do content to you like if I can do this that's what I want to do. I was like how how do I do it? Um and uh yeah and then so I learned felt like an old person but you you learned the ropes. So I think that was Snapchat but I don't even have Snapchat anymore. Um yeah Mircat shoot and so yeah I think with with YouTube it's different on different platforms because obviously different platforms and they also change the algorithm all the time so I'm still catching up. But my like number one thing if anybody wants to do it one um don't over plan it just do it because um it's so much better to just like like you learn as you go and you're going to rather than like trying to make like a polished Joe Rogan podcast just start recording yourself and you're going to and just by recording yourself you're going to work out um your way of doing it. Um the other way I would say is do not look at metrics. Do not look at who's watching and who's not watching because really it doesn't matter because anyone I know or if I've tried to like aim for a KPI. I've worked with brands before and they want you to get a certain amount of numbers or anything. If you if you go into making the content with the the numbers in mind, it never ever happens. And um people follow passion and they they they sniff authenticity. And I think people can sniff it if you are like someone who's wanting the views and the money and the stuff. Um, you can just sniff it. And also if you're trying too close to obviously you can be I'm I'm inspired by a lot of creators and I love like oh I like the way they use those graphics and you can be inspired by loads of people but if you carbon copy you're going to be like a sheen version of Joe Rogan or a sheen version. Um, so like yeah, really invent yourself. Invent your own kind of thing. Yeah, kind of your style is your style and don't try too hard. Obviously you can like absolutely adore your who are your like top people, but um but really you're not going to be better than them. So um yeah, like stick to your lane and just your passion. like it kind of for me. Um yeah, my my my whole point about making stuff it was to like reach none of my friends really are that interested in ancient history or like um yeah like my it was actually it was Cosmic Summit last year was the first time Oh yeah, I was there too. Shoot, we missed each other. We missed it. Um but at Cosmic Summit last year was the first time that I bought my partner because he he's always been we got a puppy at the same time that the pandemic. So whenever he he he also works in films. Whenever he goes for a shoot, we one of us always has to be home for the puppy. And it was the first time ever um I said, "Would you like to come to Cosmic Summit and kind of see what I do?" And he was just like blown away because he wasn't really in the the world of um ancient history or alternative history. Uh and that was really fun to share him with with all of that because but most of my family and friends are just not that interested. And so I wanted to find a community. I wanted to reach other people. And I think that's part of what content is. If you're if people can sense that you're authentically trying to chat about something or find that community, then you will find them. But if you're just trying to get a mic to get a platform, it's just very different energy. It's weird. Um, and I've noticed it and I've noticed it work because I've sort of done it twice and I've done it with the comedy thing and I've done it with the history thing. Um, that's my like number ones to everyone. I'm like, seriously, don't worry about your numbers. Um, YouTube is like stay consistent. So, for the first year, I did a video every Monday and it was it was not so much like the quality of that video. You probably look back and be like, "Oh." Um, but it was the consistency. So, YouTube like rewarded consistent posting. Tik Tok wasn't not like that at all. Um, really what happened with Tik Tok? So Tik Tok it was just um Tik Tok I have to stay super niche. The only thing that works on Tik Tok is anything to do with history. If I try to do anything slightly away from it or funny they don't no one's interested really interesting. So so I think Tik Tok is if you can find your whatever like your niche is on Tik Tok. Um and and then also it doesn't seem to matter when you upload or it just if it catches the algorithm it catches it. And don't take it personally. Some people get so bummed. Like I've done it where I've spent I've I spent a week editing a video for YouTube and then you know it it doesn't metrically perform very well. And then the video last week where I just I interviewed Trevor, I think I spent three minutes whacking that together in the edit. I was like I'm just going to quickly put it up because people need to cross reference this right now. And that's nearly like on a million I think it's like my biggest video on YouTube and I was like the one I spent like no time on and it's all on Zoom. It's so insulting. It's so insulting. I spend money on Adobe editing and getting all the fonts and the music and I paid for the and I was like, of course. So So that's the it's the nature of the beast of of content. And also um don't be so imp don't be so impressed by like like numbers and virals and stuff. It it's literally just like a wave that crashes. And it's cool if you can ride it, but it's not the be all and end all. And actually just slow and consistent kind of pays off a bit more than you can have one viral and no one ever looks at you again. or you can um just be that like find your find your community. I think that's paying off more as well with um brands are realizing that because uh I could get a lot of numbers before on like Facebook videos, but it every that it was different eyes on every video and they're realizing from a brand perspective, it's actually better to have like a micro community of people that come back and are um kind of Yeah. rather than rather than being like a window display. It's the difference. Um, and that's more appealing. Um, I think now that I know every every so often I'm like looking at having a little look and then I'm like, man, YouTube have just changed the whole thing or um so yeah, I think um and and also make yeah do your passion project until you can um like Luke, my uh podcast co-host, he he was trying to straddle like a mainstream full-time job and stuff and then he he took the jump a little while ago. I was like, "Dude, I think you're on the on that edge." Like, I was like, "If you do this full-time, I think you're going to click over and to be able to make this um your money owner." Um, but until that time, like it's okay. I've had so many jobs as being like a working actor. I've I've done everything. Yeah. And I've like hustled tables and I've done everything. And Yeah. Um and and that's that's cool as well. Just keep Yeah. Keep the passion cuz the one bad thing is when your passion becomes your job, it can kill the the passion a little bit. Yeah. If I see another pyramid again kind of thing, you know, and it wears you out. Oh, you get a bit uh you get a bit desensitized to it. Um because it's like Yeah. because then the stuff. So, I've I've always tried to keep a thing of like if I'm not genuinely in the mood to make a YouTube video, I will not film it because I just feel like people are going to they're going to get they're going to be able to feel me being like, "Hi guys." Um, so yeah, I want to be It reminds me of uh there's an Alan Watts quote where he said, "I think we need to start teaching our kids not that they have to work hard, but they that they have to work joyfully." And if we instill this idea that work should be joyful and not that work should be hard and tor, you know, toil and if it doesn't have to be, then let's figure out how to work joyfully and and it'll come through. It'll come through in the work because you're actually enjoying what you're enjoying the process more than just doing it for the outcome. And um trolls as well, like, oh my gosh, I've been on the internet like no. Oh yeah. How do you handle your comments? Do you look at them? I just Yeah, sometimes. But also I've had everything and it's like it's um cool like at the end of the day trolls who do big big nasty comments. It's like thanks thanks for the engage review. Thanks for the algorithm bump. You do not have to watch or so many people are like oh my god she doesn't even know what she's talking about. She just she's got no qualifications. Or like she's not taking No, she's not taking this seriously. People get really annoyed that I do it very light-heartedly or I do it like I'll try and read as many scientific papers if I can and then I try and put it into my personal thing is that I'm just trying to relay as if I was in talking to you in the pub or at a barbecue and I was I just met you or you're my oldest friend and I'm just trying to relay what I've just heard and and and I'm just the relay person. That's kind of my I'm not here to be like I've studied in this university and like but people get really pissed that I'm that I'm either doing it so casually or um that I don't know they just don't like the energy I do it with. But um but I'm like cool. Um that's how I do it over here. Thank you for watching. Yeah. It has nothing well you know it has nothing to do with you right? Everybody's comments they don't have anything to do with you. It's a reflection of their own you know whatever they're doing. Yeah. Yeah, there's always once because I used to in my earlier videos when I when I put a bit more effort into like getting my face ready for camera. Um, I used to do like fun cool makeup stuff and some people were like she can't be into history and lipstick. I thought that it was a really weird comment. I was like strange take. I was like I do. I love pyramids and I love lipstick. So So weird. Sorry, dude. It was really weird. Really, really weird. Um, it sounds like being having a background in comedy kind of got you ready, too, because it seems like being in comedy would give you a lot of thick skin or, you know, ability to take a joke kind of. Yeah. Um, yeah. Yeah. Like a lot of humor. A lot of I like humor. I like dark humor. Um Um, yeah. Dark humor. What are some of your favorite shows or movies or like what what represents that for you? Oh, okay. Um well in my comedy um big influences on I love my thing is I like physical comedy and like like um do you know Mr. Bean? Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Okay. So Mr. Bean was a the king. Yeah. Was the king of like silent physical comedy. Um growing up massive fan of Mr. Bean. He was the best part of the London uh Olympics when he showed up at the ceremony. I still remember Mr. Bean showing up at that ceremony. So, um, yeah. So, a lot of my earlier when I started doing Facebook videos, I actually had no words in the com in the comedy, I would it would be visual gags, visual videos, which is why I think they did quite well internationally cuz it wasn't like you don't need English. Yeah, it was it was just me bumping into stuff, falling over stuff. I saw Mr. Beast, he said the same thing on some clip. He said, "My best clips are the ones he showed one where he's like running with a bunch of stuff in his hands and it's falling or something." And he's like, "No words." He's like, "Because it goes global and it gets 10x the views of everything else." So, um, yeah, being able to like that physical comedy is like my favorite. Um, my my dad educated me and my brother quite well. Like we grew up watching like Laurel and Hardy and The Three Stooges and and so I I had like a a weird uh comedy uh like um Martin Shaw and Steve Martin. Oh, I was going to ask about Steve Martin. Yeah, I mean very right in the pocket of physical comedy. So that's what I grew up watching. My dad would show us a lot of 80s movies and all the movies and um so they really inspired me. I just love it. For me, what tickles me, I love just awkward, embarrassing moments. And I love the reaction like when I see someone like go to shake someone's hand and the other person doesn't see and then I'm what that person then does by being like and or you know or that's the amount of times that I've thought I've seen someone that I recognize and I'm shouting and being like, "Oh my god, Carol," and then it's not Carol. And like what do you do when you then pass not Carol? and like it really tickles me. So, um that's yeah, that inspires me. And it was the same I did the same thing when I was doing comedy um uh videos. My first ever like viral video was years ago on Facebook and it was called sleeping in bed with your girlfriend or something like that. And it was basically because I'm quite a mover in the night. I I rotate and wrigle and I used to sleepwalk and stuff. So, I made this Yeah. like a a non-verbal just to funny music um an edit of what it's like to sleep next to and and then I think that's quite a universal topic cuz itates it got 360 million views. Oh my gosh. And it was literally like Oh wow. Um and then the other video 360 million views. Yeah. I've never ever that was on You reached like a quarter of the internet on that. That was on Tik Tok. What was that on? It was on Facebook back at Facebook 16 or something. That's that's the population of America, right? That's incredible. And it it's got a lot of video views on that. And then the other one that went absolutely like global was um you know the floor is lava. Uhhuh. Like game. Yeah. So me and my friend Kevin who was another content creator, we were like, "Do you remember that game that we used to play like when you were a kid?" Like the floor is lava. And so we chat we were like why don't we just go and play that like as adults. It'll be really funny. So we went out and in London and we filmed each other playing different rounds and we genuinely played it out in public. And so when one of us called the floor is lava and I I fell in a in a in a in a trash bin accidentally and that went by and that so playing the floor is lava and that went I think that was over 100 million and Ellen Degenerous like reached out and were like would you like to come on Ellen Degener and we were like oh my god. Um but then but then it was bad because then people started playing the game like we were in real life. Um in real life and then spontaneous floor is lava moments traffic and an accident happened and so Ellen Degenerous were like no we're not going to promote this because some people were playing it. I think a girl they did Floor is Lava and a girl jumped off a bridge or something like insane um to win the game. But she had she survived but um she didn't what she thought was water was actually another subway pass. So it was like not good. So um so suddenly the lava but then so that was became like a global internet thing. So for for years the people would just scream they're falling lava at me like or I'd be lava girl um when I'm out and about. Um, and then Netflix picked it up and did a whole show, but they didn't credit me and Kevin for my My kids love watching the Floor is Lava show. Netflix came across it largely because of it became this like huge internet trend thing. That is incredible. Have you do you have you ever process that you kind of I guess we all do. So, you know, we're all living in this world creating ripples. So, we're all changing the world just by breathing and eating and doing anything. But it seems like in a moment when you get a 100red million plays, 360 million plays, maybe something you did directly contributed to a new Netflix special, you're really changing the world. I mean, you're ch you're creating bigger ripples and and in in whatever way that is, right? It's not like, you know, there's there's other people changing the world, geopolitics, one spinning at a time. Yeah, that's right. And so like do you um I guess the thing I wanted to the the question I have there is one when you saw one of your posts 100 million you know you're getting 10 million 20 million 30 million views what what's the how does that what's the feeling like? What does it feel like? I mean what's running through your head and your body as like you're seeing this happen? It's uh it's silly numbers because I don't I I'm trying to think of like just even if I was in a room with a 100,000 people or a stadium with 100,000. I've envisioned that. I've been at like football games and and the stadium holds 60,000 people and I'm like wait a minute 6 million people saw something. I'm like that's a hundred of these stadiums. Like it it to put it into visual perspective is it's mindboggling the scale. But um I've also been around I've met a lot of content creators and influencers over the like 10 years and it's really interesting when you first meet someone you can kind of if they bring up numbers in the first hour of then you can kind of tell like the amount of content creators I've met that will put in you know well I got 12 million on this video and then I got 5 million on this one like like it's merit badges. Yeah. like you got your brownie badges and your scout badges of of it. Um and I'm like, you know, don't tell a soul that I'm 360, but uh yeah, it's it's um Yeah, it's it's it's interesting. Um I just I don't I don't attach anything to it. You don't attach anything to it when you see it? No, because sometimes it's the luck of sometimes it's just luck. It's out of control. It's out of your control. It's the universe. It's whatever wants to be fashionable that day. You can't force it. You could you could there are there are hacks to it. Um which a lot of people talk about. Um you meet a lot of influencers that are like you got to have the tagline and you got to have this and you got to have your thumbnail and you got to have clickbait and you got to like you can hack some of it to a degree, but I really think like at the end of the day it's kind of your passion coming. It almost seems like maybe you would consider it like a synchronicity in life. Like it's just the result of you doing what you love. And so it's almost just affirmation that hey you're doing you know that's the universe going keep going like you're like what's happening is going great and it it sounds like you have a really humble approach to it. You don't sound too prideful in once it hits you're like look at how look at look at what I've done. It's almost like wow that's crazy and you just keep going. What's for dinner? It's it's it really yeah it's um it's no no ego attached because I also I've seen people who um who their entire I don't know they kind of attach themselves either to whether it's their theory or whether it's their their online persona or what I don't know um everything can look Vine disappeared in a day YouTube could collapse in a night I can't attach myself Tik Tok could go away literally tomorrow you could just get banned like you know now that I've now that I've like the Egyptian authorities might uh cut me out from I don't know it could all disappear and it'd be really tragic if you were if all your ego was in this which is why I think um I deal quite well in especially in the space of u ancient history because it's so polarizing people being like but no but aliens but no whatever but um I don't have a particular hill that I want to die on I'm very fluid with and I've got no ego in the game so because I don't have a PhD that's telling me that It has to be the one way or the other. And I've I'm I'm totally like, whoops, got that wrong. Nothing under the pyramids or, you know, um Well, that's what gives every That's what we all want. That's what everybody wants is to see somebody change their mind. I mean, it just shows that you're a thinker who thinks and and acknowledges that you'll think wrong things sometimes and adjust. To me, that's my mind. Since I started in 2020, um I had a I do I do think that there are lost civilizations that we are that we've completely missed in our past. My my vision version of it 5 years ago is very different to the one that I have today. And it's just it's only come from researching and following and weighing up and being like, ah, dead end here. Okay, not there. Okay, Easter Island's not showing. So, so, so yeah, my my my my vision of Atlantis now, I still do think that there was a like a civilizational approach. Yeah, I do I do think that there was, but um my version of it 5 years ago was very different to the one that Do you have a vision of Laia as well? Like, have you has that come across your radar or Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lamria has uh and the lost continent of Moo. Um I think that it's similar. I think I think that if there were civilizations that they're going to be way more like zerocarbon footprint. Um I think they're all going to be underwater um because of the sea level changes from that 10,000 years mark. Um and I and I think that they're going to be more paleolithic on leaning towards Paleolithic than they are Greek kind of. Um, a lot of a lot of the Atlantis myth is it's completely packaged in a Greek uh like u framework. Yeah. And it's all because that was the the audience. So it was that the Christopher Nolanification of the Atlantis story at the time. But I think that probably these lost civilizations were way more indigenous Paleolithic type okay societies. Um, which is one of the reasons why we can't find them because because they're a bit more zero carbon. Um, and but they but there's some really interesting stuff like they found a wood remains of a um not fossilized. It's it should it should have uh rotted away because it's made of wood, but they found a a wooden structure. It's 500,000 years old in Africa. And it it because this it's fallen into this clay mud that's preserved it. the wood, otherwise the wood would never have lasted that long. And they can see that there are these like timber lumber things that have been put into joineries and they're bas it basically makes like a structure some sort of building um that's now um been found and that's really interesting because that predates humans. So, um, either either humans are older than 300,000 years old because we've got the little bits of bones to say 300,000, but um I think that humans probably go back further than that. Yeah. Um, and so either it's older humans that are 500,000 or it was prehumans were able to build things. And so if prehumans could build things, then I think humans could build things. So yeah, that's right. Uh, that leads me to a question. Do you have a a conspiracy theory that you have the highest conviction on? Because in all your studies and travels, is there like a conspiracy theory that you're like, um, I'm all in on? Because I think everybody's got to believe in at least one conspiracy theory. Oh, I love conspiracy. I think if you believe in no conspiracy theories, I don't think you're really looking at much. So, we I like to ask We like to ask, what's a conspiracy theory where you're kind of Yeah, I think I have pretty high conviction on that. Um, oh, so many. This is how I start dinner conversations, by the way, for anyone out there. If you need a good way to just kick it off, go straight straight there. Um, I think the first one that pops into my head is that I think that 9/11 didn't pay out quite how we think it did. Um I remember watching it as a kid and um and I remember in the in time confusion and just when the other obviously the two World Trade Centers came down and then the other World Trade Center that Yeah. And I was like oh but no plane the plane that was supposed to go into that did it go into it. So even as a kid I'm was like what? And um and then just looking at like the the amount of demolition experts that and and also like no other building plane that's gone into a building ever has made it do that like concertina just perfect demolition not even like and two and it happened not once but twice like like like if it happening one time is like a physics like whoa but it happened. So, there's part of me that's going I kind of side with the um all of the the experts, all of them. Yeah. I remember seeing the footage from the Pentagon that day, too, right? Cuz they said the plane hit the Pentagon and the but it was this thing was going so fast. There was no fuselage. There was no wreckage. It was it you know, so the conspiracy is it was a rocket. It was a it was a missile. It was something. It was not a plane. And they they there was the one gas station that kind of had some of the footage and they confiscate all the footage from that and they've never released it. Yeah. It's like what's going on here? And the one camera I remember it was like the frame rate someone did the frame rate of it because you see like you can stop. It was really a janky camera because it was some closed caption thing and they stopped the frame rate and you can see here here here and they're like that speed is like like 12,500 miles an hour from that frame to that frame. there's no way that was a plane. You know, those those kinds of things. So, there's just too many anomalies I think around 911. There's too many open questions. So, that was my number one conspiracy that I'm like, yeah, I think that there was a whole another layer of organization to that that um and it also makes sense now uh that I'm an adult and I understand more about governments and I used to think that government conspiracies were all like I was like, come on, that's just in the movies. And then we've live we've lived through things like the pandemic and I've seen like real life ways that um that governments can like quickly implement laws and not law and like and I'm just and especially um yeah just I think that government secrets are a bit more real um and there's a lot of power and the whole Epstein thing and I'm like I'm like there okay okay so there's so much going on it's it's not just in the movies it is real and you will taken out and there were and and and even on um a micro scale of um I have a scientist uh friend who wrote a peer-reviewed paper um with a some Russian scientists and they released a paper I think it was the beginning of last year and their paper was basically saying that they have um been running tests on um nuclear fusion happening in in water cavitation which was started to gain traction in the 80s looking at like water cavitation essentially the the scary words cold fusion and it all got like trash trashed and put away. So they they've been reooking into it and they basically found that um that you can get uh yeah nuclear reactions in in um in water and they they released this paper and it immediately got like um attacked. Um, yeah. And then they hired a private investigator to find out who was u because it then had like a warning note on on the paper. So it there's a whole like in academic circles there's this whole kind of like high school mean girls where peer review people you can kind of you can tank other people's which is supposed to be like scient. Yeah. And then they this private investigator they hired looked into them and they they basically got it confirmed that some people had been paid off to like squash it and I and I was like that's insane. Um so I like who cares? But but obviously people do and it happens and and so so that that's where my conspiracy hat um tingles because I I I can I'm I totally agree, you know, and it in along that same line, I I'm getting more and more skeptical of the Smithsonian the more and more I learn about them because they seem to be like the men in black whenever there's too many stories of things being discovered and all of a sudden the Smithsonian comes in and they go, "We got to take all these artifacts. and they leave and they're never seen from again. And if if you are an organization where as soon as new discoveries hit, you kind of walk in, show a badge, and everyone's like, "Well, I I we just found this thing, so I guess you guys are the ones that are supposed to have it." And you can just keep confiscating evidence. I mean, the Smithsonian is basically historical evidence. That's the whole thing they are. And so, if they are hire, if they just warehouse a bunch of things that don't fit what they want, that just seems like a lot of control. seems like a lot of you have a lot of control over the switches if you have all of the historical artifacts of humanity like and all concentrated with you sort of I don't know just seems ripe for taking advantage of it the thousands of articles like the archived articles that that mention that you know this was found but then the Smithsonian now have it and they're going to look after it and then when you ask the Smithsonian about that article they're like we don't have that. It's like yeah, but like somebody was there. So what happened? Yeah. I I feel like and I was like but that it didn't happen just like one or two times. Like there are hundreds of articles where the systemic the Smithsonian has this massive bone that they they claim that they Yeah. And it's the same with the Vatican. I think the Vatican have a lot of things. They do. They do. There's a whole underground library, right? Yeah. And it's not even that like conspiratorial because there's a very clear reason why they would hide anything that would knock the pillars of the of the religion that they got the money on. Well, if one of the things that I always try and look at is who's hiding information. I generally heir on the side of more information is always better uh in situations. And so if you have if anybody has a library of 10,000 books or 100,000 books and you have the resources to get them all scanned and learn from it all and you don't do that, it just feels like that's not worth the laziness. Like why? Like why not? It's so cheap to get books scanned and and all the it's it's relative to like what you could learn or discover from the knowledge. It I almost just think you have to not be doing it on purpose. You almost you have to you have to try not to scan everything because every like how many if they ran a Kickstarter for we want to scan all of these books that because we have we can't do it all ourselves. They'd get millions of dollars in funding right away to scan everything. And so I guess I I've talked about this uh me and Austin have talked about this a lot how we're in the we're in like the age of information and in the digital age I think everybody has now we sort of default into thinking all information is being captured because our phones are recording everything and everything's recording everything and so we just think all the data exists somewhere but I think that what's very astute of the Smithsonian and if you really think about it if you can just take all of the data surrounding something it's like it never happened and it didn't get recorded. and it didn't get and and now it's just he said she said and if you could just go scoop up all the things out of that one room no one can say anything about what happened in that room anymore and it's so like simple but I think we just over I think we think we're all too smart for that now you know what I mean in in a way and looking at evidence of like lost civilizations and lost things it is insane how much does not uh in a very short amount of time relatively like in literally within 5,000 years everything's gone. Um, apart from stone. And I'm thinking about how much of our civilization, how my my entire life and career is all digital. Like if the servers go down, I you know, that's all gone. Um, and yeah, and then the only thing that we have retained really in antiquity is all the stone stuff. And we're not making anything in stone probably anymore. Um, so I was like, maybe I need to make a stone tablet or something. Maybe they maybe they didn't make everything. Maybe that's so old. We're like, right, maybe that's the foundation is like stone and then they had computers and electron. Maybe they had a bunch of stuff and whatever. Maybe it wasn't carbon based or silicon based. Who knows? But maybe all that's gone for them, right? Like they all got all wiped out and we still just have the stone. We really don't know how long that stone has been there. Like if if we made a if we made a stone tablet today that had um QR codes on so we know what they are. we know what they do, right? And then 10,000 years in the future, they someone finds this thing and they're like, "Look at this ancient religious script and like you you know what I mean?" And you're like, "Oh, there's like a whole process and technology uh to do with QR codes that we would they would just be this ancient pattern. That's we believe they use these mystical patterns to signify." Yeah. And it's everything just becomes like religious or um or like artistic. Uh but yeah, but not like functional. But um yeah, that's kind of a really good example of I'm like, wow, like everything we're doing now is on servers. Everything that's paper's going to be gone. Like a Tesla car would be fully uh disintegrated in 5,000 years. Unless unless you have those accidents where things get accidentally preserved by some freaked thing of nature, um everything's gone. Um, so yeah, that's very exciting. Um, also terrifying. It's like nothing stays, but also it's Yeah, we just keep going around and around and around. Yeah. Yeah. It's almost like the past doesn't exist, right? It's like a story of the past and we just keep changing the story and the more stuff we find, it changes it a little bit, but it's hard it and if it all gets if and there's pockets that literally don't exist anymore. We have no record. I mean, you know, 99% of it, all the people, 99% of the people, we have no idea who ever all of them were in history, you know what I mean? Just normal people, they just, we don't know. And so, it's uh I think it makes personally it makes me grateful for today. Like, that just brings me to like, oh yeah, like this is all disappearing. Like, and somebody may if even if what I do survives in a thousand years, they're probably going to have to interpret it and they'll be wrong because there won't be much there. So, like, am I am I enjoying my day? I mean, it always brings me back to like gratitude for just being alive and being experience it. Somebody in a museum somewhere, they're going to find like fragments of a Yeezy hoodie and be look at this. The priests wore this. So, the god Yeezy get it so wrong. Do you know one of my favorite movies, it's like a guilty pleasure movie. I love it. It's so bad, but I love it. Is The Time Machine with Guy Pierce. I think it's like 2001. Yeah. Cool. That's a That's a That's a deep cut. I love that movie. I I rewatch every couple of years. Um I I I liked it as a kid and and and um but I but I just I think I love the concept of the movie of this this guy going this scientist going, "Why can't I change the past?" And so he invents a time machine and he goes back and he can't change what's already like everything's sort of if someone's going to die, they're going to die. and um y and and then so then he goes into the future and then just that whole idea cuz yeah I'd seen loads of movies where people go back to the future go but going forward a million years into the future that really like set my brain on fire and then it's the same thing they had little fragments of ancient New York City and it was like yes these are the old stone people it's like time square um yeah I just I love that movie it's so cheesy and so great but um yeah I often think Like if I had a time machine, where would I go? Would it go forward? Would it go back? Would it make a difference? Would it make a difference? How does it I don't Yeah, that's Yeah. Is it multi universes? If you go back, are you even in the same universe? Is that even how it works? Like are you just forked off into some other branch that now it is unique and you do change it, but the other one is still what it is. the um the the the second conspiracy theory that I think that I'm like quite all in on y uh is the Mandela effect because Oh, you are? Oh, okay. Because I have not not all of them because it's different cuz I I I'm not aware of but but I have there's a hill I will die on and that is that uh Britney Spears had a microphone in her oop um Oops, I did it again. Yeah. Yeah. Did she? She did. Like I remember it as a kid. I remember like it was so in my brain and and why I also know that is because I didn't have the internet. I didn't have access to cable TV. We didn't have that when I was a kid. Um so there people like, "Oh, you must have seen it somewhere else or you must have seen another Britney thing." And I'm like, "I wouldn't have had access to it." And and it stayed in my Yeah. And it's I remember in the in the in the in the music video and she's in the red cats suit and I remember her like moving it and me emulating it and it totally and then you you look back at the video now and she moves nothing. She just does this thing with her hand and she moves nothing. The microphone was like it's been digitally taken out. Yeah. And and I'm it's really scary on my brain because I'm looking back going like I have a memory of Britney with the mic and the red thing. I totally agree. For me, it's the it's the cornucopia on Fruit of the Loom and the Cornucopia. That's another one. They're on the website. I've got about four or five where I'm like I remember that as a kid because I really wanted a fruit. I thought it was like a really expensive brand or something and I sure didn't we all that cornucopia was so impressive. You know, it was like the night tick of the uh the basket world. And I was like I was like, "Yeah, I want I really want a fruit of the loom jumper." And I remember with the basket and the fruit and Yeah. And then to be told that it just has fruit, I'm like, "No, I didn't even know what I didn't know what a cornucopia was. I just knew it was a basket." Like, and on Fruit of the Loom's website, they have a history section to clarify, and they're like, "Never." And they show the evolution of their design, and none of them have cornucopas. And I'm like, "No, no, no chance." Saw that as a kid, like with my eyes. And again, I didn't have the internet to influence me. It would have been in real life. I would have seen it and I would have wanted one. And like That's right. And there's another one. I don't think it might it might be just an English thing, but we have um we have a a cheese like a kind of cheese triangle. Uh little kids eat them. They're like a little triangle of cheeses. Oh yeah. Okay. Called Dairy Lee. And um the Dairy Lee cow is like the mascot of Dairy Lee. Okay. And and I remember her having a nose ring again cuz when I was a kid I was like I want to have a nose ring. Sure. And um the dairy leaf has a nose ring. Yeah. Yeah. And I and and it's like from the laughing cow I think is like the second brand. And at the end there was used to be like an animation of the cow that came up and then she'd sort of smile and wink or whatever with her nose ring. And she's never had a nose ring. She has two earrings. And I'm like no she had a ring in her nose. And and again thousands of people other kids are like I remember cuz I again I I really wanted to have um we we we didn't have a lot of money growing up. So, I really I think I really had an eye for branded things because I couldn't have them. So, um we had to we had like instead of like um Adidas three star stripe, I'd get like the knockoff two stripe. Two stripe. Yeah. Yeah. Um so, I really really paid attention to brands and logos and things when I was younger because I wanted them. Um Yeah. And I so I wanted to have the like Jerry Lee cheese, not not the like non-brand cheese. Mom, I want to Do you think Do you think that these ripple effects do you think that they're being caused or do you like they're like like someone's testing us and sort of tweaking reality a little bit to get us used to it or do you think that there are greater changes happening for other more important things and these are kind of like ripple byproducts of like well we can do that but you know Fruit of Looms you know turns out it doesn't have a a cornucopia anymore. It's just sort of like by changing some other aspect of reality, these are byproducts. Or do you think we're all being conditioned to be okay with multiverse and then kind of go the other way or something else? Um, so I read a book um it's a it's a a fictional um novel called Dark Matter. It's amazing book. Like I couldn't put it down. So good. So good that the Apple TV made it into a TV series and they smashed it. It's so good. So if you can't be able to read the book, just watch the TV series Dark Matter, Sam Worththington. So basically it and the the author is obsessed with like quantum science, quantum theory. Okay. Um and so he writes his fictional novels but all completely um in the most latest um upto-date quantum theory. That's the best that's the best science fiction is the ones who take that science. Yeah. So that was really cool. So that it was a really like easy way for me to learn quantum theory by reading this book. Sure. The premise of it is there's a guy who he's a college professor. He has a wife and a son. He's kind of happy with his life, but he he could have been like a he could have been a very wealthy like Nobel Prize winning professor, but he made some decisions in his life. And anyway, so he kind of is where he is, middle of the road, like happy, but has some things. And then one day he um he's coming he goes to meet his friend at a bar. And on the way home, somebody like bags his head, kidnaps him, and when he wakes up, his wife isn't his wife. He's him. Everything's the same, but his wife isn't his wife. Then his kid doesn't exist. And he he everyone thinks he's crazy because, you know, this woman was like, "Yeah, we dated in college, but then you left to to do the Nobel Project or whatever." And like, "What do you mean we have a son? We've what do you mean?" Um, and it's like little just tiny little things had changed. And then the the whole idea of the the movie is that it in this quantum theory of the universe is that every decision splits your reality and your timeline and there are infinite because there is because the universe is infinite and so therefore time must be infinite. There's not one timeline and it's and and and everything and if there was a way that you could swap and slide over to different timelines. Um, it's very very cool and and that the way that they made the science in that show like make sense. That's why I think Mandela effects would be aligned to that that there are that there are we are it's like it's every single timeline. There are there are there are probably infinite timelines that look nearly identical, but it would just be the one thing where like Pepsi spelled with an O in one and an A in another. Um, and it and it and it all fits in scientific quantum theory if you're looking at this infinite corridor of well and you know maybe we've been having Mandela effects for thousands of years but just we haven't recorded them and we haven't had the internet that's kind of let everybody take photos and and even collectively ask if anybody remembers. I mean, let's just say the Baronstein Bears were spelled the other way and I grew up and now they're spelled another way. I could ask like four of my friends, "Hey, do y'all remember it being spelled this way?" and they'd go yeah or no and then we'd be like that's weird but like when millions of people on the internet can all agree with you and you all of a sudden you go wait we all have a collective memory that's not true like what is happening here and so I think maybe they've been going on for forever we just haven't had the method of sort of like noticing them yet that's true because um yeah it's be only because we can reach out and speak to more people because like 20 30 years ago you would only be able to ask your tribe and it seem it wouldn't seem that amazing, but um it's when you when it's when it's the thousands of people and and it's the little traces in in cultural history and we haven't had singular events affect so many people before. So without the without news traveling, you know, one guy does something and a thousand people get upset about it. But now one guy can do something and two billion people can know about it and be upset about it. And so we're all collectively having a similar experience which actually also wasn't possible up until the internet. Basically you could only the only people that could experience an event were as many as could sit in an arena or something right and experience it together. And now we have billions of people experiencing something at the same time. I haven't researched in because I I was under the impression that there's no Mandela effects before the 2000. Yeah, I've heard that. I've heard that concern. So, he's interesting. If if they keep if they if they if they predate it, then that's cool. I just mean uh I guess it's proving that they didn't exist is probably pretty hard. I just mean they could have, but we just we just never noticed because we never had TikTok to say, "Hey, has anybody else said this?" And then, you know what I mean? Like, how would you actually prove other than rand before then? It would just have to be somebody going, "I thought that cereal was spelled this way when we were kids." No. Okay. And that's that's as far as you kind of could really give it credibility. I think like yeah obviously these little Mandela effects they're very real for people who like for me the ones that I remember and I'm like I remember that. I remember the Monopoly guy with the monle 100%. I remember that as a kid. Um but I think it'd be something Yeah. like if if if we get one where Yeah. like globally like Princess Diana didn't die in a car crash in Paris, she died somewhere like it would be like no I remember or or something happens like the the Twin Towers it wasn't Yeah. Yeah. This if the Mandela effect happens where something completely something really really uh vivid where where there's more people than I guess remember it one way but also maybe those can't be affected because of quantum mechanics. I actually think maybe if everybody has a strong enough belief about a specific thing, then that field is kind of locked or stronger and it's harder to change versus something as nebulous as Baronstein bears. And what's is that an E or an A? We all kind of vaguely remember it. And so it almost like our belief in that spelling wasn't as collective enough to lock it into place. So maybe some of these Mandela effects are sort of that's why they're all peripheral kind of it's not really that important because do they have a monle or not? Ah I mean ultimately we all don't all have a belief about that one way or the other it seems. Uh and but you know the the twin towers going down or something very central. Maybe there's too much belief in that event to change it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Consciousness has has locked it. That's right. That's right. It's hit some threshold to where it can't be changed until that belief all those beliefs fields decompose de you know deconstruct off that one. Yeah, it's it's it is it's odd. And I do think that yeah, there's something cuz people say about like manifesting, you know, you manifest your your best timeline. Um and it can seem a bit like Yeah. Yeah. But in the but but it makes sense in the quantum world. Yeah. Like your decisions do they literally uh they they force and diverge your it actually changes reality your reality and you Yeah. If you if you actively make decisions one way and you can manifest in your in theory to your highest timeline um uh if you're like and and then the studies about like the power of prayer um and uh what's the other one? Um, which is when basically just like the when when like the hive mind of forced uh thinking and focused thinking can make effect on things and the uh the what's it called effect um placebo effect which is very real. Oh yeah. Yeah. Lots of placebo out there. They've made bald men grow hair just because they think that they are having something that can grow their hair. So therefore their hair follicles grow back but they actually just got sugar water on their head. Or there's like the story of the guy who uh he wanted to uh he wanted to get out of this world and so he took a bunch of pills and he then he starts freaking out and dying and he changes his mind, goes to the hospital and they're like and he's like cardiac arrest. I mean all this stuff starts happening and then they find out he just accidentally took like a bunch of vitamin C like he just it was the wrong it wasn't actually poisonous and he they tell him and as soon as he heard it his heart stopped all physical things yeah dialed down. And he was like, "Really?" And then he kind of stood up and he walked out. But like before he knew he had took taken sugar pills, he was actually going through the motions of his body was dying and shutting down. Like what the heck is that? That's wild. He didn't even have any poison in his body. I wish that there was a uh sort of like some sort of pretend pain like a um a pain relief for giving birth. I'm just thinking of like that'd be great. If I think I'm getting something, they'll be like, "Don't worry. This is just going to be fine." And then uh you get the epidural. That's pretty good. I do get the real drugs, but uh yeah, that'll work. That would be an interesting study on on birth if Have you heard Have you looked into hypnosis birth? Hypnotism births. Not hypnotism, but I'm I'm I'm looking at hypno breathing because that Okay. Um because my friends who have been through this before have said that's one of the only things aside from like the drugs. Sure. Uh, one of the only useful things is um like hypno birthing, like breathing through it and breathing through the pain. And that's right. You kind of you go somewhere else, you know. Uh, it's funny though with my wife, uh, for what it's worth, uh, we had one of our child, one of our my oldest, we had a a rough birth for that one. Great. Um, and then the other two we didn't. Um, but what I can say is she actually said even despite that, she said being pregnant and sick for the whole nine months, that was worse than the day of delivering in hindsight. And so I think the things you're doing right now Yeah. Uh maybe this is the hardest part. And while that one day is pretty acute, uh it's very finite. It's very just kind of like a couple of hours, 24 hours, what I mean, we were there for a couple days. Uh but in hindsight, she was like, "Oh, being sick for 9 months was way harder." for sure. Yeah. So, you're you're you're in it. You're in the middle of it. Yeah. I've heard that. I've heard that uh that that newborn tiredness is nothing compared to pregnancy tiredness. Yeah. So, so like it's all tired. You're You're just tired. You're just You're just existing. Uh and hey, this is great. We're coming up on two hours, so I think we should probably wrap this up because you've been uh you you've been sitting with us really uh nicely. So, I appreciate and I think Austin's been having some, like I said, he was at his he's at his parents house helping out his his dad and so I think his internet is having some issues or he just popped into another quantum realm. He's just lifted off out of here. That's my preferred method of existence and stuff like that. Um well, it was great to meet you. Thanks for responding to me, reaching out. You know, I love hearing about the journey both like um both kind of from like oh a channel and content making and what's that journey like? I appreciate that cuz you know we I'm trying to learn as much as I can. Uh but then also just we have common interests and I just can't believe you've gotten to visit all those sites so casually and sort in a way it's like it's it's so awesome and so I hope to follow in your footsteps and I go visit all these sites. I've been to the pyramids, but I haven't been to I haven't been to Gobecley or Man, it feels like I got to ask I could ask you a bunch more questions about this. You also have your favorite content that I watch. So, goe was stunning. Again, that had another vibe that was very vibey and it's proving humans did something 13,000 years ago. It's like, well, you gota it's so impactful from a narrative standpoint. So I would I would definitely recommend uh Rapanoui just as on on your life bucket list just to go in the middle of it was like water world when you're there there is nothing. Wow for thousands of m it was just water in every direction you're flying over and it's freaking you out a little bit cuz you're like is there anything here? Yeah. You're looking at the map on the thing going, um, yeah, and it's so tiny. Like, yeah, it's a speck of earth in the middle of water. It's water world, but it's just wild. It's so amazing. And it's so it's it's it's a nice uh I really recommend it for like vacation wise cuz it's just it's cool. Lovely. Um, I was only there for 3 days. I did a three-day turnaround. Um. Wow. Yeah. I flew 20 hours. I was like basically on the ground for almost less than I was in the plane. I did two days two days traveling either side and I was there for about two days. So it was like that's wild. It was it was time zones. It was not good. And uh actually I have a question. If you come across uh anyone who's kind of uh into giants, we would love to talk to somebody who's done a lot of work on or just been investigating giants for a little while. I don't know if you've ever come across that much. Yes. Uh, I have someone recently was looking into giants. Was it Hugh Newman? I I'll have a look. I've recently someone popped up on my timeline and I went because I I love a giant investigation. Yeah, it's it seems like a good working model. It's at least one theory that I think has some higher it should be he more heavily weighted into investigating. That's all. Oh, yeah. There there's there's there's enough uh historical references everywhere that Abraham Lincoln um I don't think it's some sort of like fictitious literature thing. It's it's yeah the Smithsonian but um that's right. Um yeah off the top of my head I can't I can't think of who you are but Oh and your podcast uh co-host would isn't he moving to North Carolina? Yeah, Luke. So he's uh he's he is from from North Carolina. I think he has he Yeah, cuz he they have a like a summer place there. Okay. Um but but him and his wife are are locatedating permanently because she got a job um out there. So um cool. So So they're going to relocate to North Carolina, which is really cool. I'll have to I'm in Raleigh. I'm in North Carolina. So maybe I'll have to I'll hit him up. I'll see if he's where I don't know where where he's moving, but if he's close to me, I'll be fun to get lunch with him. Yeah. Yeah, he's Oh, I can't remember the name of the place now. Um but they're moving I think in May. Um but yeah, but that's cool cuz the plan was um maybe next year now that um me and my partner will go out and stay do do Cosmic Summit and then stay for a little bit and visit Luke and Lauren and and they can show us sort of the the area. Yeah, exactly. Right on. Yeah, you'll be a little busy during Cosmic Summit this year, I think, according to your timeline. I can't. Yeah, I'm on the no-fly list at the moment, but um but but next year I I want to get out there. Um I want to explore North Carolina and I'm really want to explore Montana. That's Oh, yeah. I'm a fan of Yellowstone, but also because of the like megalithic wall in Montana. I want to go while while you can still see it with your own eyes and get private permit before they I don't know. I feel like strike while the iron's hot. That's Yeah. Before that becomes bought and shut off or whatever. Um that's my my next my two places I' wanted to go was Montana Megalithic Wall and um Petra Jordan. So they're my Oh yeah, man. Awesome, man. I got to get I gota get a trip on the books. That sounds too like just to have that out there would sounds like a good uh it forces you to do it too. So yeah, and if you come to North Carolina, let us know. I mean, I'll still be here. We're not going anywhere. So North Carolina is a great spot. Yeah, Raleigh was was was uh beautiful uh when I first went. So yeah, it's great. You know, you're two hours to the beach, three hours to the mountains, good schools, decent cost of living. It's great. It's a nice spot. It's cute. And best mac and cheese I've ever had in my life was from North Carolina. Um yeah, they're pretty good at making unhealthy food taste really, really good. Oh, it would it was unreal. Like I love mac and cheese anyway. Um but we I had my best one and then my friend uh she Steph who runs Cosmic Summit. She did some research and she was like I found the secret ingredient and it's this like creole spice and u and she's cracked the code and now I make mac and cheese and I just put that spice on everything and it's Yeah, it's unreal. It's unlocked my my my mac and cheese experience. You know, that's so funny. I've had a you know if people always ask me like what's my what's your favorite burger and I've always wanted to say mine my burger is my favorite burger and so I went on like a whole thing about how to make and we make smash burgers and so I've kind of dialed that in and that's to the point where now I go to a restaurant and I'm not going to order the burger because I like mine better and so now I get something else something I can't cook but sounds like you've nailed it on the mac and cheese but yeah and it was literally because of North Carolina it was unreal I think I had like three rounds of it at Cosmic I was like oh shoot just going back for more cuz it's so good. Man, I don't know why everybody around here is Yeah, it's the food. I mean, you know, it's hard to stay in shape when you got so much good food around, you know. I mean, yeah. Whenever I've gone to America, no offense, I you you you the running joke is you weigh in and weigh out of America. No taken. I come back a different weight, but um you take a little bit of America with you when you leave. The planes are always a bit heavier going back towards this way. They have to calculate the weight, but um but it's good. Like I always even as a kid I loved going to America cuz I just knew I was going to get all the fun foods and donuts for breakfast. That's awesome. Well, it was great meeting you. Thanks for taking the time to chat with us. This was fun. We'll let you know when it's live and you know, best of luck. You got about four months left. So, you know, keep uh keep doing keep fighting the good fight. We all got to we got to some some of us got to replace we got to keep populating the earth, you know. So, you're playing your part. next generation. That's um which is cool. And yeah, hopefully she likes to travel as well. And that's a girl. That's a girl. All right. Hey, I was going to ask. I didn't but I didn't want to, you know, I don't know if people find out. It's all Everything's sensitive. It's always hard to know what you should and shouldn't ask about. We No, no, we knew uh we knew early on. Uh we wanted to check. Um we both thought we were going to have a boy and so we were uh we had like boys names more than girls names. And then we found out it was a girl and we're like, "Oh." So we had to sort of code switch over to cuz you picture your kid. Totally. Yeah. And then um we decided cuz I we had some really cool boys names and then um yeah, we were like, "Oh, it's a girl now, so what do we do?" And then uh my partner was like, "Well, why don't we just keep the name anyway?" Um and like gender flip it. Um because we really I really love we both really love the name Atlas, which is um Oh yeah. First that's a great name. That's cool. Yeah. The first king of Atlantis. That's a That's a great name. Yeah. And I really like the idea of this little girl. And people like, "Where's your name from?" Like, "Oh, I'm named after the first king of Atlantis." Yeah. That I mean that that plays that plays great if you ask me. So I like it. I have a I for what it's worth, I say go for it. I think it's a great name. She's on brand already. But I just hope you girls like Hey. Well, and one of the things that I always noticed, I always wanted to name for our kids, I just wanted to at least make sure one of my only requirements was that whatever name it was, I want people to be able to spell it when they hear it. Because if they can't, then for the rest of their life, they have to say, "Oh, it's this, and you got to spell it this way." And I just it for a convenience sake, I'm like, I just don't want my kids to have to respell their name for everybody. So, Atlas is a really good one because everyone will know how to spell Atlas. Everyone can spell it. And uh you can count it on your finger. And um and I think yeah, maybe her first job I'll just attach a little GoPro on her and send her into all the small temple faces. I can't go. Oh yeah, get to those little places, you know, toddler temple run and be like, go get the footage. That's great. Never before, you know. You you're breaking new ground here, you know. That's uh no one else is doing it. Yeah. No one's new laws. That's right. That's right. But yeah, so yeah, bring on the stomach. It's going to be gonna be cool, right? Sounds good, Matt. Thanks a lot. Rest of the day and say goodbye to Austin in whatever dimension he's in. We'll do. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it. See you.