The CIA’s Favorite Answer: We Can Neither Confirm Nor Deny | John Kiriakou

[Music] that really leaves it open to the boogeyman. I mean, that that's basically, you know, it's it it just becomes a label. I mean, you almost could just slap on CIA anywhere or, you know, not it it >> it's so hard to keep track of. It seems very like >> it just seems like there's not much accountability. I'm trying to figure out how to see it away after 50 years. It can run away. Yeah, >> it can. It can. But but there are two there are two responses to that. You make an important point here. But number one, the CIA doesn't give a what people believe they do or don't do. They don't care one iota. Number two, >> the only people that they care about informing are the members of the House and Senate oversight committees. So so long as they know, they don't care if nobody else on the planet knows. and they don't care that that so many people accuse them of being involved in one conspiracy or another. They just don't care. >> So, it's not even about keeping it secret. They just don't care. They're just going about their business. And I mean, not that they're open, but they're it it's irrelevant whether people suspect it or not. And maybe sometimes it's helpful to get a little bit of rumors going and this kind of thing. It just gives a little bit more cloud to the whole mystery behind it. And that's why that's why they never comment on anything. Like anytime, literally anytime a reporter goes to the Office of Public Affairs and asks for a comment, they just say no comment. Or um if you go to the Office of Public Affairs and say, "Uh, hey, can you send me any information you may have on A, B, or C, they give you what's called a glow response, G L M A R. Uh, we can neither confirm nor deny the existence of any information pertaining to your question. If things were to go south, let's say you did try to whistleblow and you had to get off the grid. And I want to point out a book that you wrote which is how to disappear and live off the grid. Where where would you physically go? What would be like how would you get there and where would be your number one destination if you just accidentally >> the geo coordinates? >> Yes. >> Yeah. Can you drop us a geocache? >> Yeah. Where you're going to hide out? Well, I say I say in that book how difficult it is to actually disappear and live off the grid. You you have to be prepared to tough it out. And when I say tough it out, I mean no phone, no internet, no credit cards. So, you've got to be well prepared. You can you can buy these these cash cards. Um like you have a Visa card that you put $500 on it and you treat it as a credit card, but no phone and no internet which is very hard. And then you're going to have to >> no phone. You can't even get a burner somehow. I guess they're all tracking it. Yeah, even a burner phone. >> But but it'll be it'll be intercepted even if just you know remotely by a computer. It's going to be intercepted. So you really have to go off the grid. Off the grid. Um, now it depends too whether you just want to be off the grid and left alone or whether you're escaping criminal prosecution. So if they're actively searching for you, the chances are pretty good that you're going to make one mistake at some point and they're going to find you. If you just want to go off the grid, that's far far easier. You know, you can go to >> Yeah. >> You're going to have to leave the United States, but you go to Yeah. Baja or, you know, go to go to East Asia someplace, go to Thailand or, you know, places that have expat communities, but but they're expats that that expats that want to be left alone.